Microsoft Core Services Eng. Division

Recruiter informed me they would be giving me an offer for SDE role. Haven't had a chat with hiring manager yet. Can anyone give some insights into the Core Services Engineering division? How does it compare to azure and what are the future prospects? My background is in distributed systems and backend engineering.

Microsoft filouri Dec 9, 2017

CSE is MSIT where you would have msft internal view vs Azure which is product group where you will have external view

Amazon 9hfqx5 Dec 9, 2017

MSIT is also shit tier whereas Azure has a pretty good reputation.

Microsoft Lablab Dec 10, 2017

9hfqx5 is right. MSIT devs used to be paid way way less than other devs even. You could be a dev below 59. New grads saw 80k starting Pay not 107k. They’ve since rebranded as cse to get away from the stigma of msit (our it division) and they’ve gotten compensation to parity-ish but this is really a tier below Azure

Symantec LLbv28 Dec 9, 2017

Is this for Azure?

Amazon acaiberry Dec 9, 2017

Wait a minute. You have already interviewed and you don't know what the team is doing?

Oracle LarryE! OP Dec 9, 2017

I have some idea of what the team is doing. Some projects sounded interesting. Wanted to hear from MS folks about CS division.

Microsoft beNH55 Dec 9, 2017

That’s a fancy name for MSIT.

Airbnb PbcJsw Dec 9, 2017

MSIT would be a step down from Oracle

Facebook mrballz-fb Dec 9, 2017

MSIT is seen as lower caste compared to PG in MS. It will be hard to move to a PG later internally.

Microsoft madman’s Dec 9, 2017

Please don’t accept the offer. CSE is the worst organization in Microsoft. It’s IT where you build websites for internal Microsoft employees. Most under-performers at Microsoft are moved to CSE.

Oracle LarryE! OP Dec 9, 2017

Thanks. Will pass on this one.

Qualtrics BoredEng May 8, 2018

Curious, what was the offer they gave you?? I'm also in the interview loop for this team...