Misc.Aug 10, 2019
WayfairBScK77

Microsoft Executive Recruiter Question

Some background before the question... An Executive Recruiter from Microsoft reached out to me to "network". Since I'm an area (not Redmond) where MS has a decent presence, I agreed to a 30 minute conversation. When the call came, it felt like mostly chit chat, but I realized after about 15 minutes I was basically being behavior/leadership screened. He clearly had grokked my LinkedIn profile and my past experience allowed me to answer the questions he was asking pretty well. Overall, it was a nice conversation, he was easy to talk to, and asked some interesting questions. Towards the end, he did mention that there was a local org of about 50 Engineers that needed leadership. Call went well and he's going to to set up another call to continue the conversation. He's focused on VP, GM, and Partner roles. I assume this is a latter type position. I'm already in the screen/on site phase for local FANG outposts at the L6/L7 level. I hadn't considered MS before this, but the role has me intrigued. Anyone insight into Partner role, TC, speed of MS process, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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ISXM10 Aug 10, 2019

TC?

Wayfair BScK77 OP Aug 10, 2019

I'm sad just thinking about it. It was $600k and rising (would be at $650k now if I didn't move), but I took a $50k haircut for a cool opportunity which turned out to be BS. Throw in tanking stock and I'm down to $450k. It's a first world problem, I know. 20+ yoe.

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ISXM10 Aug 10, 2019

Ugh makes me depressed. I feel like I’m doing everything right (education, certificates and work progression) but still no one wants to give me a shot at faang and similar. My TC is 110 lol

Amazon amazons Aug 10, 2019

There’s a pretty big difference between Partner and FANG L6/L7, so it sounds like it would definitely be worth pursuing. From what I understand TC would be $800+++

Microsoft snoozefest Aug 10, 2019

Not sure with people hired in as partner but yeah definitely at least that and pretty sure it's more like 1 Mill+++ for those promo'ed into it. MSFT super limits the number of partners.... If you're a lvl 67 (e.g. principal with next promo being partner) you're basically in a waiting pen for someone to either make CVP, quit or retire, get demoted back to principal so that you can make partner. Partner is also at the point where if you have less scope / etc they'll actually move you back to principal. It's a long waiting game so if you can make it in at partner def worth exploring.

Wayfair BScK77 OP Aug 10, 2019

Thanks for the replies. I think the specific situation is what led the recruiter to me. It's a non HQ location, not a huge team, and no experienced managers to promote to the role. I've got experience managing and mentoring junior managers, being the guy in charge of a remote group, partnering with teams in remote locations, etc. The FANG roles should be higher (for example, my connection at FB was a recruiter that called me for a Director role last summer) but due to non HQ location, there's fewer openings. Both offices are planned to grow at least 100% so I do see opportunity there. I'll definitely follow up and report back. I expect it'll be a slow process, but I am trying to leverage in progress interviews elsewhere to move things along.

Microsoft anonseatle Aug 16, 2019

Yeah partner is a completely different pay scale. Majority of pay is based on your product groups financial performance. High growth pgs you can clear well over 2m a year, and even middling pgs youll be in the upper 6 digits.

Wayfair BScK77 OP Aug 17, 2019

Ok, thanks. I got the actual job description from the recruiter and the job title is "Partner Group Engineering Manager". Hopefully we'll get to the point where we're discussing compensation. The job itself and technology are both very appealing to me.