Tech IndustryApr 27, 2021

Microsoft L61 Offer Evaluation

Blind Community, please help me with my situation Current TC 165K , NYC YOE 5 Years I was interviewed at Microsoft Azure hiring event. I passed in interview, however interviewer didn't feel my experience align with their teams. I thought they were interviewing me for L62 but the feedback was "Strong hire for L61" I was mapped with different teams. Interviewed with one other azure teams but they offered role to some other candidate. Later Bing offered me a role . Recruiter didn't revealed the level when I asked many times and he tried to down play me by saying Seattle is Tier 2 city and initially he tried to offer less than what I earn now. BTW recruiter told me I will not get annual bonus for 2021 later after negotiation for several days, Recruiter told me that 137 Base + 120 RSU + 40 Sign on (split in two years 25+15) total 1 Year TC 192 K while I was trying to make it 200K, recruiter came back and told me that manager don't want to give the 192 k number also he want to reduce base and sign on. How should I deal with my current situation, Bing Ads project is also not so interesting and can I go back to the Back end coordinator and ask her to map with MS Azure or MS teams. People told me no difference in pay between Azure and Bing . But careers wise I live to be at Azure or MS Teams . I'm going through this painful negotiations/discussions from last few weeks. What are the best numbers to ask for for L61 I don't have any offer with me , my other interviews are in final stages and I'm interested to work for Microsoft. Thanks #microsoft

Sam's Club poiuy12345 Apr 27, 2021

I got same numbers for l61. That’s the max they went despite a lot of push from hm as well. It is non azure

BlackRock ASSAM OP Apr 27, 2021

Now recruiter don’t want to give that numbers also saying hm wants to lower base and sign on

Sam's Club poiuy12345 Apr 27, 2021

Say you’re gonna go with numbers that she initially gave or don’t join.

Amazon Btwb25 Apr 27, 2021

It is either you choose to be in NYC or move. 137 base in Seattle should be similar with 160 in NYC

Accenture 👁👄👁♨️ Apr 27, 2021

Is this SWE?

Amazon 👁👅👁|👁👄👁 Apr 27, 2021

Are we related?

Accenture 👁👄👁♨️ Apr 27, 2021

Now I wanna be, DM 👁👃🏽👁

SoundHound LiPw13 Apr 27, 2021

Why is MSFT trying to be an ass and tryna give such a low-ball?! Also L61 for 5 YoE?! Seriously?!

Intel thug_life Apr 27, 2021

Yes. L61 for 5 YOE is very common at MSFT

EA xshrpchad Apr 27, 2021

Is this true? All the 61s I knew were 2-3 YOE.

BlackRock RockBlack Apr 27, 2021

What level are you at BLK - associate or Vp. If associate then I will say reject MS since you will get more at VP level + better location at NY and other opportunities in future. I did the same , dm if you want to discuss more.

Apple ntdc56 Apr 27, 2021

Was the event on april 22nd?

BlackRock RockBlack Apr 27, 2021

You at Apple , jumping from Apple to MS ?

BlackRock BigBull Apr 27, 2021

Little earlier in March. It really stressful to drag everything to this far

Apple ntdc56 Apr 27, 2021

yeah it is!

Microsoft deeplear Apr 27, 2021

did you get relocation ?

BlackRock BigBull Apr 27, 2021

No - that will be around 6-8 k

Microsoft slothHERE! Apr 27, 2021

That’s about my offer. I am not in azure thou.