Received an email from HR that I will be getting offer for L63 Sr Software Engineer for an Azure team in Redmond. Currently waiting for FB onsite results (interviews went really well), but if I don’t get FB how much should I expect from MSFT? Based on levels and blind, MSFT L63 pay is not that great and I’m already at top range of Sde-2 in Amazon so not sure what to expect. How much can I negotiate? Msft interviews went well. Current TC: 280k YOE: 8 years Seattle #microsoft #negotiateoffer #softwareengineer
Is $280k with current stock appreciation? What is your breakdown? Are you in your 3rd or 4th year payout? Because even at L64 you won’t get that. Base for L63 will be $160k
Yes it is with stock appreciation. 155k base + 37 stocks (5th year in Amzn) I got good refreshers and was TT from last two years.
So your 37 stocks all get paid out right away? Like you get 37 every year or does that vest over several years?
I have personally seen only Amazon ppl counting their stock appreciation in TC. That way my TC at L62 is 240k lol
haha if we don’t then we will be the biggest idiots to still be in Amzn. 😂😂 (with base cap at 160)
Whip out that crystal ball, not sure who will do well over the next 4 years. I’d gamble with Tesla maybe?
Based on all research its seems like MSFT pay really Sucks !!!! Really sad, I’ll try negotiating but definitely won’t sacrifice on TC. (bummer i was really excited about msft)
They key is to have high offers on the table to negotiate up with msft. My initial L61 offer (2.5 YoE) was 128k/80k/20k but I had G/FB offers and raised it up to 135k/200k/55k due to competative FB/G offers. L63 should be able to be bumped up to 165k/250k/65k at the top end if you get good FAANG offer as leverage. That would out you at like 268k average TC for the first 4 years, after which you can hop again if you're still wanting a higher TC.
Cool, I’m hoping to get around 170k/320k/70k . Also is the joining bonus divided into two years or is it at once ?
Don't go unless you are being PIP'ed.
What was the interview pattern?
Recent 63. $165k base and $100k 4 year stocks.
Sign on?
25k
TC~200k good for L63? What is TC for L65?
Don’t forget the 15% bonus and the peanut stocks
You can definitely get it, I was able to get 170k/310k/100k at MSFT @L63 with competing offers from Fb.
That is still less than his current TC.
Above numbers get it to 320k TC for first two years with 15% bonus, how is it less?
280k is not possible for L63. You must get L64.
But will they negotiate for L64 for 8 yoe ? Also, I don’t want 280k thats my current package, I definitely want more 😜
Lol good luck with that