Just received a verbal offer from MS: L61 Base 130k Bonus upto 20% Sign On 20k Sign on Stock 30k Location: Redmond Current(startup): Base 135k Bonus 10k Going to receive a salary hike soon. StartUp Stock options YOE 3.5 I am not sure about the sign on stocks. What does that mean ? I was expecting more than 100k for 4 years, and its just 30k for 4 years. Secondly, how long does it take on average to reach L62 ?
Stocks are super low (returning interns can get up to 180k/4 years) and sign on can hit at least 30.
Keep interviewing...
Stock 30k per year? If not you’re getting stifled.
Nope, over 4. They lowball the shit out of industry low-mid level hires
l61 — joining should be 40k and stocks should be 100k. These numbers you can get by just asking.
Thats what I am thinking of. I do not like negotiating alot. Just not able to digest why stocks are so damn low.
Just ask should be fine. Just talk through all the experience you are getting to the table and say “this amount would make me satisfied “
If you have multiple offers AND your offer is with Azure then you should be able to negotiate more otherwise no.
I do not have multiple offers. This offer is from Azure. The stocks looks super low to me. I am not sure why have they made such an offer.
I was offered 30k offer for 61 as well. Ended up getting 150k ( had other offers ). But getting 75k to 100k is normal for 61
30k stocks extremely low.. also why are you taking a hit on your current base ? You should negotiate..
I am not really happy at my current job. (Grass is always greener on other side :p). Secondly, I am in Bay Area. Its ridiculously expensive. Thirdly, I have my family in Redmond. And last, even with such a bad offer, the TC is still 20k higher.
WA also has no state income tax.
How long does it takes to move from L62 to L63
2-3 years
What location?
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