Microsoft Sr. Designer vs. FAANG TC?

Sep 26, 2018 22 Comments

Currently at Capital One, but interviewing. Wondering how does Microsoft Sr. Designer TC compare to similar roles at FAANG? I have an interview with MS.

TC: $95k

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  • Microsoft Lincolnlog
    Probably somewhere around $140 for senior
    Sep 26, 2018 6
    • Microsoft Lincolnlog
      Bonus would be in addition to salary.
      Sep 26, 2018
    • Microsoft ECNL41
      140k is low for a senior in Microsoft. Average senior TC will be much closer to 200k if not over @ Redmond
      Sep 26, 2018
    • Microsoft Orgs
      Senior design comp is basically the same as Senior PM if you're looking for more numbers. $155k is avg salary + 15% target bonus cash (max 30%) + additional target stock. $200k+ TC would be common.
      Sep 26, 2018
    • Capital One / Design ETF189
      OP
      Thanks for the detailed ranges Orgs. Looking at levels.fyi Senior PM/Designer would be a 63/64 at Microsoft, right?
      Sep 27, 2018
    • Microsoft Orgs
      Correct. Note that Senior Designer is a bit higher at MS compared to others (Sr Designer at Amazon is comparable to Design II at MS)
      Sep 27, 2018
  • The Black Tux / Design
    BSuL67

    The Black Tux Design

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    Bay Area?
    Sep 26, 2018 6
    • The Black Tux / Design
      BSuL67

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      I don’t have a ton of experience but recently went on a salary fact finding mission for FAANG. Main thing I found was that Bay Area salaries were very high compared to other regions, including other parts of California. Most of them use numbered levels as opposed to titles as well, though not sure about Microsoft.

      Most of the salaries mentioned in previous posts correspond with what I heard for the Bay Area. Outside the bay it seemed closer to 150-190 for an L4, which was the level band I was researching, and a likely baseline for you unless you have tons and tons of exp.
      Sep 27, 2018
    • Capital One / Design ETF189
      OP
      Yup, didn’t get the roles but I’ve been considered for L6 at Amazon, L4 at Google and hopefully 63 or 64 at Microsoft. I think all these levels (based on data from levels.fyi) represent the leveling for a Sr. Designer.

      Does anyone know what the RSU distribution at MS is like? I’ve heard of 5, 15, 40, 40 (I think that’s how it works at Amazon) — is this also how it works at MS?
      Sep 27, 2018
    • Microsoft Orgs
      Sign on RSUs vest annually (25% a year for 4 years), bonus stock vests quarterly (totalling 20% a year for 5 years).
      Sep 27, 2018
    • Capital One / Design ETF189
      OP
      Thanks, but I’m not sure I follow re: bonus stock. This isn’t sign on bonus stock right? I’m assuming this stock is given as a bonus based on performance? But then how would it add up to 20% over 5 years?
      Sep 27, 2018
    • Microsoft Orgs
      Sorry, to clarify: bonus stock is from a yearly performance review. Sign on stock is what you get on day 1, it's treated differently.
      Sep 27, 2018
  • Capital One / Design ETF189
    OP
    Ok so I got through the first round with MS and one of their docs I need to complete before flying out to interview is asking what my compensation expectations are. I’m either thinking of — A: asking for higher than market value of $250k OR B: evading the question. Thoughts?

    Someone mentioned here on Blind that being the first to mention TC is good because you can anchor them.

    Ps. 3 YoE
    Sep 28, 2018 1
    • The Black Tux / Design
      BSuL67

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      I’d be curious to know too, as I’ve been part of teams that hire, and salary expectations factor into how hard we might push. If we wanted a senior designer and they asked for WAY more than we were willing to offer, we’d likely stop pursuing that candidate.

      But these were small to mid sized teams, so the big guys may vary considerably. I personally wished I asked for a bit more when interviewing with google, but was able to negotiate up a little in the end.

      I usually give the advice to aim slightly higher than market but well within reason. Asking for 100 above is probably the same if not worse than evading the question, and makes your application look less serious. Asking 20 above might be more serious.

      Trick is figuring out what the market/expected rate is. I only have a small handful of data points from google outside the Bay Area, none from MS. Assuming those are even in the ballpark of your role, 200 seems like a number that is high but within reason. This is from my experience as well as 2 design contacts at google outside the Bay Area, all with more yoe than you, all with TC under 200. But obviously YMMV.
      Sep 28, 2018
  • Microsoft gfba68
    Senior would be in the $200k ballpark
    Sep 26, 2018 0
  • Microsoft 1👊man
    should be 200k+ tc
    Sep 26, 2018 0
  • Avigilon pasimeena
    Sr.designer at MS and only $95k? Am I missing something?
    Sep 26, 2018 2
    • Capital One / Design ETF189
      OP
      I’m currently at Capital One. Sorry if that was unclear. Will update the original post
      Sep 26, 2018
    • Avigilon pasimeena
      Oh gotcha... yeah definitely look around man. Good luck!
      Sep 26, 2018

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