Microsoft has one of the worst pay in Seattle right now

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May 31, 2021 46 Comments

yet they are one of the most valuable companies in the world, this doesn't make sense

when did Microsoft stop providing competitive offers?

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  • 2002 but they are miles better than Amazon so no need to overpay
    May 31, 2021 15
    • Facebook / Product
      thrashing

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      thrashing
      People at Amazon come from trash companies and think their benefits are awesome. You have no idea. Microsoft or Facebook or Google is a different world.
      Jun 1, 2021
    • Amazon
      CatGod

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      CatGod
      Worked at Microsoft before, only noticeable additional benefit for me is 800 dollars gym fee + a pair of free sun glasses. I made 180k at Microsoft, and 290k at Amazon, I was in Azure, now in AWS, to be honest, my WLB isnโ€™t getting worse, normal 40h week, nothing crazy. Oh other thing is, dental ๐Ÿฆท insurance is better at Microsoft, save me couple of hundreds.

      Microsoft is a good place, coworkers are generally nicer people because they are less stressful than Amazonians.

      Facebook is as toxic as Amazon, pay is better, but that is the only good, my wife working there.
      Jun 23, 2021
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    ๐Ÿคกs๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธin

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    ๐Ÿคกs๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธin
    They have the right strategy. For the kind of work SDE 1 2 3 and even higher do, they really don't need the smartest. If the pay the much higher levels good comp who on overall have a much important impact, business is booming.
    May 31, 2021 10
  • Facebook / Eng
    OkZoomers

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    OkZoomers
    idk I see many MS offers with high TC to poach FB employees (in the FB blind channel)
    May 31, 2021 6
  • Uber
    hmmurabi

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    hmmurabi
    Neither Microsoft nor Amazon is a decent paying company, on top Amazon has a WLB issues.

    As an outcome, the Seattle area immigrant population is outpacing others.
    May 31, 2021 3
    • Amazon
      kUKS07

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      kUKS07
      Is amzn pay really that ass? Im an L4 (junior level) with 2 YOE (1 @ Amazon) and make 180k. Was gonna leave at 2 years but maybe Iโ€™ll interview sooner
      May 31, 2021
    • Facebook / Product
      thrashing

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      thrashing
      It is. Youโ€™d make more even at Microsoft if you move (since new hires typically make more). Youโ€™d make like 280k-300k at E4 at Facebook if you can clear the bar.
      May 31, 2021
  • I think this will start to change in the upcoming years. Aside from the poaching thatโ€™s been mentioned I thought Microsoft csuite was reevaluating packages to make them more competitive?
    May 31, 2021 3
    • Facebook / Product
      thrashing

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      thrashing
      Microsoft has really competitive offers for interns who convert to full time and industry hires 65 and above.

      The gap is for 61-64. And for top performers in those levels they give out additional equity.

      This year for example, they gave a 64 I know, 300k over 4 years.
      May 31, 2021
    • Msft new grad offers at L59 can hit 200k+ TC if you have other offers at FB and G and its even better if your relocating from outside US as they give close to 20k post tax (almost 30k pre-tax) lump sum. Kind of strange how some college hires get better offers than some L62 (Sr swe) though lol
      May 31, 2021