CompensationMar 24, 2019
NewDDvO10

Microsoft offer

I got a Microsoft offer as a software engineer in the US. I am not American (need work visa). I am a recent graduate (BS not MS) with no previous experience and no competing offer. Base: $110k Signing bonus: $15k Stock: $65k over 4 years Is this good? Should I try to negotiate? As said before, I have no competing offers so I do not have leverage.

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Microsoft ifnwn Mar 24, 2019

Not bad. You can't negotiate if you don't have competing offers. L60?

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DDvO10 OP Mar 24, 2019

Yes. L60. Thanks for the reply and for pointing out that I missed this detail. I also thought I would not be able to negotiate with no other offer.

Microsoft eAtfish Mar 24, 2019

It doesn’t look like L60 offer, base seems too low

MathWorks p8Rz2u Mar 24, 2019

Without competing offers and no current job, they are not going to budge.

Microsoft eAtfish Mar 24, 2019

This is standard new grad offer. If you have any leverage you can move it up to 50k sign on and 120k stocks

Microsoft femme Mar 24, 2019

Accept and be happy you get to work in America at one the biggest tech companies in the world.

Microsoft nsgiet Mar 24, 2019

lol

Microsoft Pickbot Mar 24, 2019

Wtf

Microsoft xzw Mar 24, 2019

good offer for L59

Microsoft mfCG87 Mar 24, 2019

Slightly below average for a Microsoft new grad, but a great offer nonetheless compared to the average new grad not on blind.

Tableau ThePlague Mar 24, 2019

This is definitely not below average. It is the standard offer

Tableau ThePlague Mar 24, 2019

It depends on when you interviewed and got the offer. You are probably getting the numbers for the new year

Microsoft wellala Mar 24, 2019

Good offer. If you are from one of the top universities in US or have competing offers, new grads can get like 150k RSU but you are not in such a case hence good offer.

Amazon lqNdz666 Mar 24, 2019

Try to negotiate and don't accept the first offer you receive (don't be too greedy). If they are getting you a work visa you'll be stuck with them till you get your green card. So try to negotiate your stocks or base. Also comps differ from state to state CA, NY, WA or Massachusetts are expensive places to live. If couldn't get anything go with it. You are still young and plant of time to prove yourself and get where you want to be. Don't listen to stupid MAGA (Mericans!) who want to demotivate you. The country needs talent like you and they should be happy to have you here.

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DDvO10 OP Mar 24, 2019

The offer is for WA. I will try to negotiate..I am not desperate to accept the offer. I think I have chances of getting a job in another company (yes, it was a bit silly of me to apply only to one company). If not, I can go for a MS (in the US also) and try again in 2 years

Amazon lqNdz666 Mar 24, 2019

Yeah, Google, Amazon (AWS), Facebook and many more badly need people. Good luck, Microsoft and IBM wouldn't be my first choice.

Glassdoor lpgs Mar 24, 2019

Take it, of course. You have 0 experience and just having microsoft on your resume puts you on a whole different level.

Microsoft hwibcdj368 Mar 24, 2019

Take it, you’ll get bonuses and stock on top of that

Microsoft temp_ Mar 24, 2019

Hardly get stocks at Microsoft. Not until L63. Even at 63 and 64 they are minimal.