Microsoft offer
Asking for a friend - Received Microsoft offer L60 Yoe- 4 at investment bank 118k base 20k joining 12k relocation 25k stocks over 4 years Is it a good offer? What numbers should he ask without competitive offer from other tech company? Has offer from investment bank at NYC 130k base and 20k first year end bonus.
That offers dogshit. With 4YoE I'd expect it to be substantially higher.
I don't think it is 4yoe at big tech companies. If it is outside the US, or at small companies, msft will treat the candidate as a college hire. Actually less than a college hire
Looks like a new grad offer
That's worse than the standard new grad offer in 2013...
At 4 YOE they should be offering at least L61, which should be in the 127-130 base range Stock should be a lot higher if it's an eng role, same with signing
Sharing my recent L61 offer: Base 135k Stocks 75k/4 years Sign on 20k Standard relocation I had multiple competing offers
Was your offer software or hardware?
Ask for a lot more. Especially with competing offer. Microsoft really taking advantage of people recently. Is your "friend" a minority?
It's not unreasonable for L60 BUT and this is a big but, your friend probably should be at a higher level.
The stocks seem low. I've seen up to 100k for 59 few years back, but that was a college hire. Base is on the lower end of 61.
The stocks seem low. I've seen up to 100k for 59 few years back, but that was a college hire. Base is on the lower end of 60. Ignore my the other reply.
Those big grants to college hires almost all go to one (or both) of: - returning interns who were rated well - grads with competes from FAANG+
Not a good offer. I got the same thing at L59 with 2 YOE coming from a shitty no-name company.
Low ball