Tech IndustryNov 13, 2019
Newnightdrive

Microsoft offer usually start this big?

Offer is from Microsoft for SDE2 in Redmond: Base 145 Stock 15/yr 4y vest Bonus 35k TC 195k Much higher than I was expecting for opening offer. Can this be negotiated up at all? Seems really stock-light and base-heavy... what should I counter with? I have 5 YoE

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Indeed Inbeed Nov 13, 2019

Background / YOE?

Microsoft PkachuFace Nov 13, 2019

Sign on not really tc..

Microsoft iandroid Nov 13, 2019

Base and bonus are solid. Stock should be way higher

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nightdrive OP Nov 13, 2019

How much higher? Can SDE2 at Microsoft TC clear 230k? 250k? I didnโ€™t think that was reachable until Senior-level

Cerner frogmetal Nov 13, 2019

+1 stock should be higher. I got L61 140k base and 140k stock with 3 YOE. I had a competing offer though with a similar breakdown.

Oracle Chairman๐Ÿฑ Nov 13, 2019

Is that a sign on bonus or an annual bonus?

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nightdrive OP Nov 13, 2019

Annual bonus, he hasnโ€™t offered any sign-on yet

PayPal owo owo Nov 13, 2019

What's your yoe/background? That sounds like what my new grad friends are at, maybe with less base more stock less sign-on

Microsoft ajboy Nov 13, 2019

Stocks should be higher 120-160k for 4 years Bonus payout is only 50% of target so be prepared for it

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nightdrive OP Nov 13, 2019

What do you mean by only 50% of target? Edit: oh, are you talking about what the taxes would be on a sign on? This bonus is yearly incentive

Microsoft ajboy Nov 13, 2019

Your target bonus for a year is 35k I am saying according to performance reviews at Microsoft, average performer gets 17-18k which is 50%. And this is pre-tax

Target horsepower Nov 13, 2019

OP: when did you complete your interview? Is this a hiring event?

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nightdrive OP Nov 13, 2019

Late October. Not a hiring event exactly, but something similar. Why do you ask?

Target horsepower Nov 13, 2019

I gave their interview on Nov 1st and want to understand if you have given it at the same time as well. They gave me the offer today.