CompensationOct 17, 2019
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Microsoft or Adobe?

i have 2 new grad offers. Adobe Bay Area Base: 132 stock: 135 bonus:20 Microsoft Redmond Level 60 Base: 118 stock: 130 bonus: 40 Is there any scope of negotiation in MSFT offer? which offer should I choose and why?

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SAP H1BforLife Oct 17, 2019

Yoe? Level?

SAP H1BforLife Oct 17, 2019

Also how the f do you have an adobe offer if you’re already in Adobe ?

Adobe codepro OP Oct 17, 2019

I was intern at adobe

Google sp55 Oct 17, 2019

I would pick microsoft

Riverbed Technology tETj16 Oct 17, 2019

MS , but Redmond is different. Single or family to move with?

Adobe codepro OP Oct 17, 2019

Single. My fiancé is in Bay Area.

Riverbed Technology tETj16 Oct 17, 2019

Chances are, it’ll depend on what your fiance decides. The MS offer isnt strong enough to swing the tides. But dual income in Bay Area would be. Adobe is a good company, I know people there that’s been there for 10+ years. Adobe is in right place at the right market. Now if MS pushes up TC to same as Adobe, and you’re in Redmond.....

eBay beach_hair Oct 17, 2019

Microsoft. Lot of products to move around in. Cheaper place to live and save. Mountains, trees, water, snow, rain, fall.. It is a whole some place to live in.

Google superpower Oct 17, 2019

I would push for Microsoft in Bay area

Microsoft iamletired Oct 17, 2019

MSFT offer is much, much higher. Just the lack of income tax alone makes MSFT better not even taking into account COL differences.

Adobe codepro OP Oct 17, 2019

Thanks for replying. How do you convert the base of Redmond to its equivalent in Bay Area?

Microsoft iamletired Oct 17, 2019

including income tax, id say about 30-35% difference

Microsoft GTFO++; Oct 17, 2019

At least 35-40% difference. Though real estate prices have gone up but they are nowhere as crazy as Bay area. A 2000+ single family built in 2000s with less than 30 min commute to Microsoft can be had for ~1M. Try getting that in the Bay area.

Adobe codepro OP Oct 17, 2019

Is there any scope of negotiation in the MSFT offer?

Microsoft GTFO++; Oct 17, 2019

Your base is pretty good for an L60. Stocks are always the easiest to negotiate on. Remember, you will be eligible for a target of 10% of your base as stocks and cash bonus each as annual review. If you join this year, expect something in Sept next year. All said, I'd concentrate on knowing what team you'd be joining. The difference in pay seems negligible.

Adobe codepro OP Oct 18, 2019

I will be joining Azure Compute team.

Microsoft hisky Oct 17, 2019

Microsoft. Good pay, good wlb and good benefits.