CompensationSep 8, 2018
IBMBeKind12

Microsoft program manager offer

I have been offered a senior program manager position at L-64. The position is in Redmond. Base: $170K RSU: $115K over 4 years so $29k/year Bonus: 0-30%. (Not sure how much average performance gets) Sign on: $20K Refreshers: No numbers. Need to know from you guys. Is this a good offer? Please let me know where can I negotiate and by how much. Should I count any SSA grant for above average performance (not top notch)?

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Microsoft asdfgh. Sep 8, 2018

This is good compensation. Sign on is bit too less but that mostly depends on what you are losing with this move. They might not consider SSA given this year for negotiation as your stocks are already taking care of it.

Microsoft jduk6382 Sep 8, 2018

above average for microsoft, shows they came in with a pretty reasonable offer, you can push stock grant higher but you're already up there, refreshers bonus salary etc are all locked together by policy. unless you've got something special going on about you sounds fine

IBM BeKind12 OP Sep 8, 2018

How much worth of refreshes are you getting per year?

Microsoft RealBill Sep 8, 2018

It depends on what competing offers you have. I am sde 1 and I got offered 125k stocks. You can push harder on stocks and sign on (30k at least) for sure.

IBM BeKind12 OP Sep 8, 2018

How much worth of refreshes are you getting per year?

Microsoft FritzCat Sep 8, 2018

Which area?

IBM BeKind12 OP Sep 8, 2018

Redmond

Microsoft FritzCat Sep 8, 2018

I mean which dept?

Amazon sip Sep 8, 2018

Target bonus for your level is 15% and refresher stock is 24k vested over 5 years

Microsoft Kemw Sep 8, 2018

Sip is correct

IBM BeKind12 OP Sep 8, 2018

So that's just $6k per year worth of refreshers?

Amazon Fsgryi257 Sep 8, 2018

Which team?

IBM BeKind12 OP Sep 8, 2018

Office

Microsoft Kemw Sep 8, 2018

Surprised everyone is saying this is good offer. This is pretty damn low to be honest. I’m L62 in Bay Area and making more than the 224K TC you’re offered.

Microsoft Charmie Sep 8, 2018

If you move to Redmond your comp would go down by 20%

IBM BeKind12 OP Sep 8, 2018

That much? It's like $224k mapped to $180K

Amazon sip Sep 8, 2018

Are u in Azure? Azure scales can go higher. Fyi - i started at MS this week as a sr. Program manager

IBM BeKind12 OP Sep 8, 2018

No, I'm in office. I plan to move to Azure, but not sure if it's going to be that easy. What's your level and TC breakdown?

Amazon sip Sep 10, 2018

Leval 63 and 234 TC. I am not sure about office as that is not in Azure.

Amazon sip Sep 14, 2018

Have u accepted?

IBM BeKind12 OP Sep 14, 2018

I kindly declined. It was too low compared to other offer I had. I tried to negotiate, but they said it was already a best offer they can give me.

Amazon sip Sep 14, 2018

I see. What is the other offer?