Tech IndustryApr 16, 2019
MotorolaffTx04

Microsoft refusal

Hi, I recently applied for a position of a Software engineer at Microsoft. They were interested in my resume and answered with a list of questions and of course there were salary expectations. I wrote 110k/y and then they told they are not willing to continue. Is the number I wrote is too high? Position: Software engineer in Redmond, WA, USA. ( Near Seattle) My current stands: I'm Software engineer with 2 yoe, Currently working from Poland but having a Ukrainian citizenship. I will require some first day accommodation ( help with appartments, etc). I will require visa sponsorship.

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Motorola ffTx04 OP Apr 16, 2019

What are the standards around the area?

Google tsukino Apr 17, 2019

edit: nvm sorry, I was thinking Bay Area for some reason also - did you mean base salary or TC?

Microsoft T_T. Apr 17, 2019

The number you wrote was too low. Around 180k is the standard

Motorola ffTx04 OP Apr 17, 2019

What could be the reason? That didn't even checked my skills after initial resume review. I have an issue, a Ukrainian citizenship. It means I will need to have visa sponsorship and pass through all hell of the USA immigration process. There are no shortcuts for me. And maybe they were counting on lower TC, because Eastern Europeans are generally cheep. I get 19-23k before taxes.

Google tsukino Apr 17, 2019

A company at the scale of Microsoft shouldn't be constrained by visa costs. Don't try to transfer European comp standards to US, and especially areas like Redmond or NYC. It simply doesn't work like that.

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womac Apr 17, 2019

Honestly it's best to not write anything for salary. If they ask you can just say you'd rather not discuss it at this point in the process. If they choose not to move forward you just have to say thanks for the consideration and move on. There could have been 100 reasons they did this and very few are in your control.

Amazon 63784747 Apr 17, 2019

Try some position in Canada. They won’t want to go through the H1 hassle and wait until Oct 2020 unless you’re a world class coder.

Motorola ffTx04 OP Apr 17, 2019

There are 1928 vacancies at the US and 8 in Canada...

Amazon 63784747 Apr 17, 2019

You don’t need to worry about vacancies!

Oracle MfqX68 Apr 17, 2019

Just apply again. Could be that the recruiter found someone else for the position.

Facebook wootness Apr 17, 2019

If I had to guess, it was your English in your correspondence...

Motorola ffTx04 OP Apr 17, 2019

I use Grammarly for correspondence. I helps a lot. But if course, not having regular practice in English makes it worse.

Facebook wootness Apr 17, 2019

Only tons of practice helps here. I’m not convinced Grammarly is not making things worse by taking some learning out of it. Reading a lot of well structured English helps (perhaps printed stuff)