Move to the Bay area?

New / Eng Qcka35
Dec 9, 2018 40 Comments

I live in the Denver area. TC of 105, Yoe 5. I work mostly on optimization of compute restrained problems using CUDA, NEON, etc. I am mostly looking to make more yet I'm concerned that the Cali taxes and living expenses would make it a wash. Also, it seems that most of the jobs are for webapp development and I'd rather not. If anything I want to get into real time embedded or ML.

Should I consider moving? Does the TC outweigh all the extra costs?

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  • Oracle
    GroovyBro

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    GroovyBromore
    Did the math and for me and as a single person it would have made sense but I’d need to deal with a smaller place. As a married person with kids - even with the increase in pay it made no sense.
    Dec 9, 2018 5
    • New / Eng 0xFFFFFD
      Could be 50/50 if you look at all age groups. But for 22-35 range? 3 guys for each lady
      Dec 9, 2018
    • New / Eng 0xFFFFFD
      Also outside of Bay Area being a software developer is enough to be considered very successful. In Bay Area bar is much higher.
      Dec 9, 2018
  • Snapchat nGIe76
    Depends on the TC you’re moving for, and that depends on the company and level / role you’re moving for. Also depends on your expenses; family or not, etc. It would have to be a lot to justify the move, but someone with your profile might get $300-$350K at google.

    I’ve been through these kinds of decisions before. Ultimately you’ll have to decide on concrete offers in hand. That means you’d have to do interviews, which means weeks or months of preparation. Hard to feel good about putting that kind of effort in for a “maybe”, but I think in these situations that is the only good way to do it.
    Dec 9, 2018 1
    • Facebook 한국
      Agree. See what’s out there and then decide
      Dec 9, 2018
  • Twitter Yabby
    U need to consider the girls man.. if you’re white, then there are so much more hotter girls and actually available girls in Denver than the bay. If ur not white, then ur still not getting any girls in the Bay..
    Dec 9, 2018 3
  • Proofpoint / Eng foodtruckj
    If you get $300 to $350k at Google or Facebook then why not move? Even with the taxes you come out ahead and the TC trajectory will only be higher from that point on.

    Tip: If you're a straight male, get married before coming to Silicon Valley.
    Dec 9, 2018 0
  • Apple / Ops crumbersum
    I moved from VA to CA in 2016 with wife and family of three kids. Went from TC of 142k (non-profit) to ~300k. Because we wanted to live in a single-family home and not pay through the nose, I rent an hour away from work. The move was worth it for me. I keep more of my money than before.
    Dec 9, 2018 2
    • Salesforce willforce
      NoVA is expensive too. That's why. OP is from Denver.
      Dec 9, 2018
    • Apple / Ops crumbersum
      I wasn’t near the beltway. Bought a townhome for $300k in 2005. Its value dropped 50% in 18 months. NoVA want *that* expensive.
      Dec 9, 2018
  • Amazon 123raj
    No
    Dec 9, 2018 0
  • Citibank / Finance $$>RSU
    No
    Dec 9, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng
    bkaV16

    Google Eng

    BIO
    Don‘t wanna say anything
    bkaV16more
    Dec 9, 2018 2
    • Facebook / Eng
      fb2017

      Facebook Eng

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      Google, Oracle
      BIO
      worked at Oracle, then Google, now Facebook.
      fb2017more
      This is flawed, because house can't just be counted as cost, as you will most likely sell your house in the future for more. So it is savings instead of cost.
      Dec 9, 2018
    • New / Eng 0xFFFFFD
      Interest, taxes, maintenance... That's all cost. Only principal payment can be thought as savings.
      Dec 9, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng
    fb2017

    Facebook Eng

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    Google, Oracle
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    worked at Oracle, then Google, now Facebook.
    fb2017more
    For house treat it as savings instead of cost. For other expenses, treat as 50% more. Then you have idea if you should move base on the tc.
    Dec 9, 2018 0
  • Intel / Eng Mjxjrhrhdv
    Apart from living expenses, I feel the opportunities to work on niche fields like CUDA is hard in other locations but it's better here since most ML/DL applications needs to optimized to run on specialized hardware.
    Dec 9, 2018 0

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