Background: Amazon L5 5 YOE TC: 150k CAD (117 k base remainder RSU) Offer: Google L3 TC: 222 k (135 k base 67 k RSU/year + 20 k sign-on bonus) Just want to hear opinions on if I should move from Toronto to Bay Area or not and the reasons. Need to bring girlfriend over too who isn't in tech and is a Canadian citizen...anyone have experience with that? I've heard you can only bring dependents if you are married...
The Bay Area has lots of issues. easy to surface these by reading through blind.. youāre going to have a big hit to quality of life Could they extend an offer at Google Waterloo instead? Your GF cannot work while with you. If she cannot get her on work permit, What are her plans?
Which issues in particular? I would bet the same issues would exist in Toronto, except the weather sucks on top, and the comp is low.
5YOE only got you L3 at Google? What happened?
They fucked me over. In all seriousness though that's basically L4 compensation. At the end of the day what matters more to me is the money.
Get a better offer in Toronto.
Where and how? There aren't any good alternatives in Toronto besides Amazon.
You're below the bottom of the band for L5. You could possibly try boomerang and get 200k if you love Amazon that much. Outside, just talking about smaller companies, there're Shopify, Nvidia, Snap, Square, Uber, WealthSimple, Okta, 0Auth, Instacart, Wish, Databricks, etc. to name a few. Your sentiment about no good options besides Amazon might be true for Vancouver but not necessarily true for Toronto.
Good luck dealing with the COL shock!
People talking about COL shock... Toronto is expensive AF too!!
I think most people are from the Bay area and have no idea how expensive Toronto is. Rent may be 2.5-3k USD near mountain view, but its the same in downtown toronto, except you get paid less, and its CAD.
Wait what? A 1br in downtown Toronto goes for 2.5k USD?
If you're getting a TN visa your dependents get a TD visa which means they can't work. Also, not sure if they'd issue it without being married. I'd figure out that with my gf first if I were you. I've seen people return to their countries because their spouses get bored to hell in a couple of years. Google is cool, and in other comments it looks like Toronto is expensive too so the hit may not be too bad. Bay area is overcrowded, though. What team are you in Amazon and what team would you join at Google?
Also, your gf could live here with a tourist visa but would need to exit the country every 6 months I think? Not sure how many times you can do that. Maybe enough while getting an h1b
Iām in fulfillment technologies org (software that goes into shipping/receiving in amazon warehouses). At Google its the Communications Phone/Dialer team. She could come for 6 months but she has to be outside of the states for 6 months as well (6 months in a year). Not sure how that would work considering she would have to leave her job and live somewhere (shes currently renting a place) in Canada for 6 months too. Im not sure about getting married either, I like her, but not sure about rest of my life like her.
Iām in fulfillment technologies org (software that goes into shipping/receiving in amazon warehouses). At Google its the Communications Phone/Dialer team. She could come for 6 months but she has to be outside of the states for 6 months as well (6 months in a year). Not sure how that would work considering she would have to leave her job and live somewhere (shes currently renting a place) in Canada for 6 months too. Im not sure about getting married either, I like her, but not sure about rest of my life like her.
You will be homeless unless your wife is rich ...
Why not google Waterloo? No where near the amount of human feces there as there is here in Bay Area. On way to SF office this morning I stepped on a human turd and a needle...
Thats what I wanted but my recruiter keeps telling me theres no positions in waterloo at the moment. Maybe shes lying to get me to move to bay area.
L4 to L3? Why?