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Moving to a low or no income tax state to cash out stock options?

Hello Blind, Is it possible to reduce the tax burden on stock option exercise and sale by moving to a state that has no or very low income taxes? Is there a minimum time that you need to live in the new state? For NSOS, when you exercise them, which state is taken into consideration for taxes purpose, the one at grand time or the one at exercise time? For common shares when you sell them, does the state where you exercise them matters or the state where you sell them for taxes purpose? Looking for people that have done it or considering it and their experience. For example: would it be true to assume that the early uber/lyft employees could save about 10% in taxes by moving to Texas now, and then coming back to California whenever they are done selling their stocks? Thanks and Merry Christmas for those celebrating!

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Snapchat FapChat Dec 24, 2018

You would have to prove to the IRS in court that you had strong ties to one of these low-state-tax places, should there be an audit. Furthermore, it would look really shady if you came back to California later. I think itā€™s 18 months to be no longer considered a California resident for tax purposes. Doable, but not without some careful planning. Not that you asked for this, but you also need to consider if that 10% is worth it. If it saves you $300k or above, probably. But any less than 100k, you might want to look into opportunity cost

Checkr money šŸ’° OP Dec 24, 2018

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. Did you consider it for Snap's IPO? I was thinking about getting a job offer in one of these state and move there for a couple year until liquidity and then maybe coming back to California or maybe not. Would it be considered strong ties if I were to move for a job offer each time? Indeed the TC would be much lower in one of these states so I already made some rough estimates on the gains in taxes vs loss in TC.

Oracle buzzrd Dec 24, 2018

There are some states which assume that you never left and will keep chasing you for tax every year. If you come back, they'll expect tax for all years in-between based on your federal income. It doesn't matter whether you paid another state or not. You have to prove you had no ties for every year - with nothing in that state in your name.

eBay eYay Dec 24, 2018

I would pay 10% to not live in Nevada, Washington or Texas, personally. Itā€™s not worth it to me. Iā€™m sure others would think differently.

VMware sam ringh Dec 24, 2018

What if it's a million bucks in tax savings? Also California's top tax slab is 13.3%, not 10, which is what anyone with a massive windfall will hit with when they cash out

eBay eYay Dec 25, 2018

130k, for that amount it may be worth it. If you have family near you, then it wouldnā€™t make sense, for me any way.

Pinterest hebxigwbxj Dec 24, 2018

Your stock option were earned in CA, because of that you will still have to pay taxes. I checked this with a CPA