Msft vs Google offer help

Mar 1, 2018 46 Comments

Google’s location is bay area and msft is seattle. I have close to 6 years of experience, I work near LA. I need to relocate for either of them. Considering housing market, work and wife’s preferences, I am planning to pursue microsoft.

Microsoft told its Sr. SDE(mostly 63) in azure core team. Can some one please throw some light on numbers to be asked for. It would be of great help. They projected the following:

Base 165k.
Stock: 120k/4 years.
Joining bonus: 40k
Relocation 12.5k cheque.

google’s initial offer is less and are asking for msft numbers.
What is the best offer for microsoft and how much could be asked ?

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    CompOn

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    CompOnmore
    Google will beat anything msft offers. Plus google has stock refresh which is around 100k a year while Microsoft refresh is just pathetic. Google for sure.
    Mar 1, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Product smushin
    Just moved from Microsoft to Google myself, but I strongly recommend you take a Seattle area job over the bay. Your dollars go about 30% farther in Seattle—and imho it's just a nicer place to live.
    Mar 2, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Eng ammierting
    That’s a very reasonable offer for sr, might even be L64. You may be able to get a little more in terms of stock and signing bonus, but if you have a counter. Tell google your msft offer, they’ll beat it. And then tell msft your google offer and let them fight each other.
    Mar 1, 2018 3
    • Microsoft / Eng ammierting
      Only one way to find out :)
      Mar 1, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng oAjk20
      This is closer to new 64.
      Mar 2, 2018
  • Microsoft kjyun
    Do NOT tell Google about your Microsoft offer. Let Google come up with their offer and it is extremely unlikely to be less than Microsoft's. It is more likely to be substantially higher than Microsoft's. But if you share Microsoft offer numbers, they will simply match it 10-20% higher. Get Google to come up with their number independently first.
    Mar 1, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Heifbfis
    What? Google is offering lesser than Microsoft ?
    Mar 1, 2018 5
    • Microsoft / Eng Faadu
      I am 5 yr work ex they offerd me 75k so sound good though I have no idea about others
      Mar 1, 2018
    • Western Digital ErrorNo28
      OP
      Oh thanks. Sign on ? Did you ask more base and stocks ?
      Mar 1, 2018
  • Tableau / Eng Johnny27
    Not a bad offer but new Tableau senior devs are given 5,000 RSUs or a bit more than 400k (at today's stock price) over 4 years. Annual stock refreshers are also about 3x of Microsoft. On the other hand, Microsoft target bonus is higher than Tableau and they also have better benefits (like an awesome 401k match)
    Mar 1, 2018 2
    • Microsoft Lodu
      Also, Microsoft stock is a bit more stable I reckon.
      Mar 1, 2018
    • Tableau / Eng Johnny27
      Sure, but when you get 3x more stocks, you can deal with more volatility :)
      Mar 2, 2018
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    That is reasonable for msft.

    Go with wherever your wife wants.... happy wife happy life
    Mar 2, 2018 1
    • Microsoft h1bitch
      I feel like you might have attended the Dale Carnegie trainings.
      Mar 2, 2018
  • Microsoft Lodu
    Google can give you an offer upto $350k. Milk them dry please
    Mar 1, 2018 1
    • Microsoft .,
      ^^
      Mar 2, 2018
  • Microsoft Randomz
    I just left goog for MSFT. Seattle way better. MSFT increased their offer to get me to leave Google -- use your leverage! I asked them to improve offer twice before I accepted; first offer from MSFT was super low-ball.
    Mar 3, 2018 3
    • Microsoft Randomz
      $360k total, 65
      Mar 4, 2018
    • Western Digital ErrorNo28
      OP
      Any idea for L63 what can be the total comp for azure teams ?
      Mar 5, 2018
  • Microsoft Devmain
    Don’t go by initial offer , microsoft refreshers are 5X lower than google , plus google is in Bay Area , lots of future opportunities to grow if you have a google stamp in the resume
    Mar 2, 2018 0

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