Google’s location is bay area and msft is seattle. I have close to 6 years of experience, I work near LA. I need to relocate for either of them. Considering housing market, work and wife’s preferences, I am planning to pursue microsoft. Microsoft told its Sr. SDE(mostly 63) in azure core team. Can some one please throw some light on numbers to be asked for. It would be of great help. They projected the following: Base 165k. Stock: 120k/4 years. Joining bonus: 40k Relocation 12.5k cheque. google’s initial offer is less and are asking for msft numbers. What is the best offer for microsoft and how much could be asked ?
Yeah, that's a good L64 base. I don't know what's normal for signing bonus/stock, but refreshers at L63 target 15% and $17K/5 years (up to double for top rewards).
What? Google is offering lesser than Microsoft ?
Not exactly, when I told I had another offer they said let them know the offer and they will take it from there. I am interested in msft, so not thinking much about google.
Why?
Ask for more on the move. 20-25k
Base ? Stocks i am planning to ask 50k per year. Is it a lot ?
Google can give you seattle location Google salary is same for Seattle and the Bay Area Don’t share microsoft numbers with google. Just decline and ask them to come up with the offer.
Oh, I will talk to them regarding that. It seemed recruiter was reluctant towards it but I dint explicitly ask him.
They do team matching. In worst case you might have to wait for 3-4 weeks to land a team
At Google, that maps to either L4 or L5. You can expect a target between $250k and $350k total comp. google will also match any offer “out of band” if they really want you
Not a bad offer but new Tableau senior devs are given 5,000 RSUs or a bit more than 400k (at today's stock price) over 4 years. Annual stock refreshers are also about 3x of Microsoft. On the other hand, Microsoft target bonus is higher than Tableau and they also have better benefits (like an awesome 401k match)
I know folls for l63 have gotten 250k in stocks and 75k sign on. Try to ask for more
Do NOT tell Google about your Microsoft offer. Let Google come up with their offer and it is extremely unlikely to be less than Microsoft's. It is more likely to be substantially higher than Microsoft's. But if you share Microsoft offer numbers, they will simply match it 10-20% higher. Get Google to come up with their number independently first.
That’s a very reasonable offer for sr, might even be L64. You may be able to get a little more in terms of stock and signing bonus, but if you have a counter. Tell google your msft offer, they’ll beat it. And then tell msft your google offer and let them fight each other.
Thanks a lot, Does microsoft usually match google’s offer.
Only one way to find out :)