LinkedIn - gives week off in April. Hootsuite - gives week off in July. Google - gives Friday ahead of Labor Day off. UBER - another no meeting day that we will ask teams to enforce themselves! 😂😂😂 Seriously though - does anyone here use “unlimited OOO” in a way where you take more days off per year vs “limited OOO”. Why can’t we just get a corporate mandated day off globally? #####
Yeah I'd rather have four weeks paid vacation per year and just cash out end of year because I work too much to take time off. "Unlimited" PTO is a disadvantageous policy in workaholic teams/orgs.
Good to know my team isn’t alone (but sorry that’s the case). Definitely feels like it leads to less OOO time taken vs it being finite, and we should quantify the average per team and start holding managers accountable if their team average is under a thresh hold. HR should post the average days taken by different aggregates to prove it does or doesn’t work.
From what I read, unlimited PTO is there solely to save the company money. Any unused paid vacation needs to get paid out so unlimited PTO frees up cash.
We got Friday before labor day off? Must have missed that memo
If I had unlimited PTO I would just set a yearly minimum number of days to take off and hold myself to it. Probably 25 or 30.
Unlimited OOO has came in handy this year with a medical problem. I don’t have to sacrifice a holiday with family because I have taken too many days off for something that’s not fun. Most years, give me limited OOO in case I get laid off. I got a fat check once because I rolled over max days and hadn’t taken a day off that year before getting laid off.
When I had limited vacation days, I took off the limit per year (10 or 15 days). With unlimited PTO, I take off 30-40.
Well phew… at least you’ve got good culture..(?) What you gonna do with leaves
No one on my team has taken PTO this year, it's a joke
BUT - 3 no meeting days?!?
OP - What you’re ranting about I think is very very team-specific (not completely company specific either). PayPal has “unlimited PTO” as well and some teams use it very well while others are burned out.
Given the high attrition rates at Uber at present, would argue it’s a company issue right now. The unlimited PTO policy itself isn’t the issue, it’s the implementation of it in when factoring in culture. If the attrition was limited to select orgs, I would agree with you, it’s across the board with WLB consistently referenced as the big driver along with skepticism over the future prospects of the company.
Yeah, attrition is always there in any company I feel, you should see PayPal’s internal blind. And I think Uber is hiring a lot too, so, there’s that flow. But I agree Uber has it’s share of negative buzz
there was a PM i knew of that took every friday off lol i also have teammates slacking that disappear for a week every other month on the flip side i also know coworkers who are trying hard to get promoted are taking under the normal amount you’d get elsewhere
A week every other month is only 30 days. Pretty damn good but not crazy. Every Friday is way crazier, 52 days a year. 20% of work week OOO in perpetuity. At least it's predictable haha.
You have your perception of what is the flip side completely wrong.
what happens if you are OOO a lot?(say 30 days a year)
Unlimited OOO policy is a bit of a joke - the theory is it’s a way Uber doesn’t have to pay people for unused OOO hours when they leave. Also possible it leads to less OOO time vs organizations where it’s a defined amount (use it or lose it).
Not a theory. That’s exactly why companies do it. No payout when employee exits. No paperwork to keep track of it all. And no one ever takes that much vacation.