Need help evaluating Amazon SDE2 Offer

Mar 6, 2019 21 Comments

Location: Seattle
Position SDE2

Base: 158000
RSU: 90 units
Joining Bonus: 50K year 1, 40K year 2
Relocation package: 10K

I feel the RSU and joining bonus is low. How much room do I have for negotiation?

Currently in CA and current package is slightly better than this ~220K TC

Update:
YOE: 6 years

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  • It's a very good package. 158k is on the higher side for SDE2
    Mar 6, 2019 1
    • PayPal cygni
      OP
      Yea I was told 160 is cap. So I am ok with base.

      Wondering how much negotiation room I have on joining bonue and rsu
      Mar 6, 2019
  • Amazon / Eng cayde
    Re: negotiation: always, ALWAYS ask for more. Worst that can happen is that they say no.
    Mar 6, 2019 3
    • PayPal cygni
      OP
      Knowing some realistic number or actual caps that might exist would help
      Mar 6, 2019
    • Amazon / Eng cayde
      There's not much room left. You are above the middle.

      Your relo plus signing is 60, I don't think you'll get significantly more, but you could probably get an extra 5-10k out of signing. I don't know if they'll go higher on RSUs because you are very near the top of the band.
      Mar 6, 2019
  • MathWorks cJ8oNw
    I have similar yoe and received higher sign on and higher rsus, but lower base. If you have competing offers, you can probably push RSUs and sign on up.
    Mar 6, 2019 1
    • PayPal cygni
      OP
      Mind sharing approx numbers
      Mar 6, 2019
  • Twitch ~-~
    Aim for at least 230kTC. The band goes up to 250k for SDE2
    Mar 6, 2019 0
  • Amazon / Eng cayde
    That's a VERY good offer. Not top of the band, but very good. Typical SDE II base is 139. You have a great headstart.
    Mar 6, 2019 0
  • PayPal / Eng
    OnnC18

    PayPal Eng

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    What’s your level at PayPal ? MTS1 ?
    Mar 6, 2019 1
    • PayPal cygni
      OP
      No, SDE3
      Mar 6, 2019
  • Amazon wnxK3y
    Note that Seattle has no income tax so that's a 10% increase in your salary
    Mar 6, 2019 1
    • Amazon wgSD36
      Yeah but cost of living is so high that is effective a 30% cut unless you are coming from NYC or San Francisco
      Mar 6, 2019
  • Microsoft TkEm20
    YOE ??
    Mar 6, 2019 1
    • PayPal cygni
      OP
      6 years
      Mar 6, 2019
  • Oracle k-9
    YOE ?
    Mar 6, 2019 1
    • PayPal cygni
      OP
      6 years
      Mar 6, 2019
  • New monomo
    Why do you guys see base as such an important thing here? Would it matter if the difference is compensated through rsu and jb?
    Mar 6, 2019 1
    • Amazon wgSD36
      Honestly Amazon is weird but base has a huge impact to anything that is based on a % of base which most companies do
      Mar 6, 2019

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