Hi everyone, I'm currently trying to land a new job, and luckily got 2 offers as the title suggest. However, I found myself cannot make a clear decision based on my own information. So inputs from your guys would be greatly appreciated. Meta MLE Base: 180k Equity: 450k Target bonus: 15% Signon: 75k TC: 319k (excluding signon) Google SDE Base: 167k Equity: 400k (33-33-22-12) Target bonus: 15% Signon: 75k first 2yr TC: 325k (excluding signon) I was lucky to secure a decent offer before Meta hiring freeze. But I also heard a lot about the bad WLB and metrics-oriented work at Meta. I'm a little worried about finding the right team in bootcamp because I have very little experience. Because of the meta offer, I was able to push my recruiter at Google to extend me an offer before team matching. So to get "officially" final offer, I need to go through the team match process. Otherwise, the offer is not secure? I did hear from my recruiter that my PA alignment would be Youtube, but there is no guarantee about the team matching result. YOE: 1yr Just got my PhD degree last year. So I am still quite junior. I would like to find place to improve my technical skills as well as other soft skills, such as communication, team working, project management, etc. I don't like working in a high pressure environment. The meta offer is approaching its deadline. So I have to make a decision soon. Any suggestions?Thanks Edit: I need immigration sponsorship. Is the PERM audit better now at Meta? Should I worry about it? Edit2: added a poll #swe #offer #meta #google
If you can join Meta next month after the earnings plummet, you can get RSUs for cheap (vs ATHs at Google). Otherwise you’ll be fine with either
Google has already come down from ATH but it is a safe stock so wont crash like Meta.
Thanks for your comments. I'm afraid that at this moment, no one knows how meta stock is going in the next few years, given that the future of metaverse is still unclear.
Meta of course. G. Is a snooze fest.
Thanks. Would like to elaborate?
Google if you don't like a high pressure environment
TC or GTFO
I would go with a confirmed offer.
How did they let you interview for L4 with 1 yoe?
I guess because of a PhD degree?
wtf
Oh immigration sponsorship. Join alphabet then.
Thanks. I also heard the same thing that G is more friendly to immigration sponsorship.
I was in a similar position a few months ago. IMO offers should be considered equal. Where do you want to work more? I figured I’d never pass the google interview again…
Where did you go at last? I have the same feeling that luck played an important role in the interview and I probably will not pass next time.
Op what are you leaning towards? Same boat
Monetary / WLB asside, from my understanding of the two companies: Meta will increase your ability to take an idea and ship it Google will increase your overall engineering abilities Google's culture is very engineering strict, so things must be done properly i.e designs and code is reviewed to a very high standard so the process inevitably is slower, but you are exposed to ways of thinking that you might not have thought of before. Meta's culture is very "ship impact" focused, where the process is less important than the results, but still has strict engineering discipline if you're on core infra team. If you're trying to work on having a better engineering fundamentals Google is the answer, if you're trying to build alot of things Meta is the answer.
That’s your fantasy. There is no strict engineering culture at g It is pretty diluted now. You don’t learn a lot meaningful and most likely you would be too far from open source tools. You will only be good at proprietary tooling.
Hi OP! Congrats on your offers! You worked hard to get them and well deserved!🎉🎊 I am in almost exactly same situation with you: 1. Both L4 offers from Meta and Google 2. Google matches Meta’s TC (I used meta offer to compete) but Google requires me to relocate to NYC and with Meta I can stay in Seattle (no state tax) so higher net income with Meta. 3. WLB is important 4. I also need PERM so meta’s current perm status worries me… Please DM me and we can have a chat! Thank you! 😇😇😇
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