Tech IndustryJul 23, 2021
MicrosoftnHuv42

Netskope vs SoFi offer

Hi, I got the following offers for Sr. Frontend Role: Netskope: 175K base 10K sign on bonus 19000 stock options (strike is not decided) 10% annual bonus SoFi: 185K base 15K sign on bonus RSUs of 300K value 15% annual bonus My major concern is that Netskope is pre IPO and the stock options can end up more in value than SoFi's RSUs or can even be worth nothing. Should I take a risk with Netskope or play it safe with SoFi? P.S. I have 5 years of experience

Uber lessgo Jul 23, 2021

sofi is sold off hard now id pick sofi

ByteDance OKCq31 Jul 23, 2021

Go with Netskope. You won’t regret it

Microsoft nHuv42 OP Jul 23, 2021

Any reasons why you are recommending Netskope?

Baird VQSC87 Jul 23, 2021

Because you won’t regret it.

LinkedIn sPKu45 Jul 23, 2021

Netskope has 7 billon valuation and still grants option? At this level, it won't be 10x increase and 409a(the strike price) is probably not far from preferred share price, which means you need to pay a lot to excise the option.

Netskope OFbB25 Jul 23, 2021

What investors pay and what employees pay are different. If it is same, company would have given you RSUs

LinkedIn sPKu45 Jul 23, 2021

They are different but may be not very far away. Company around 1 billion may have a strike price of one third of preferred share. Company around 7 billion and close to IPO may have a 409a value 60-90% of preferred share, which is the strike price.

Palo Alto Networks go heck Jul 23, 2021

Netskope is hopeless in terms of IPO given PANW and Zscalar are already there. They might be acquired by them though

Netskope RzVR07 Jul 24, 2021

The market is so big. Don’t think it’s gonna happen.

Netskope lunatik Jul 25, 2021

AWS, GCP, AZURE, Oracle cloud co-exist with share of their own. netskope is not here to co-exist but take on. Being humble and respecting the competition can go long way. Remember apple beating dell? Samsung beating Nokia?

Netskope OFbB25 Jul 23, 2021

OP, that $19k stock is worth about 500k-600k in today’s private market. It will only go up. Ask what is the strike price and then decide.

LinkedIn sPKu45 Jul 23, 2021

Are you able to sell it in private market?

Netskope OFbB25 Jul 23, 2021

Yes. I can sell my vested stocks in private market. Investors are paying $28-$32 per share.

Netskope OFbB25 Jul 23, 2021

To give perspective on the potential for stock growth, Netskope revenue is only 50% of Zscaler but 1/5 in market value.

Palo Alto Networks jeKT04 Jul 30, 2021

Where did you get Netskope revenue 50% of zs? ZS annual revenue 600m, you are saying Netskope revenue at 300m? That would be hard to believe. If it is indeed 300m and the valuation is only 7.5b, I would serously doubt Netskope’s business model or future

Sony doge22 Aug 6, 2021

was told the same, they apparently are around that number this year.

Netskope netlemon Jul 24, 2021

Netskope share is super high diluted..... they will definitely do reverse split... it will be worthless

Microsoft nHuv42 OP Jul 24, 2021

What does this mean exactly?

Netskope RzVR07 Jul 24, 2021

Pls elaborate what it means.

Netskope silly2 Jul 24, 2021

Netskope stock is not even worth calling paper money. The dilution is so high that at such late stage, you would probably be loosing money.

Microsoft nHuv42 OP Jul 24, 2021

Can you please elaborate on this a little?

Netskope silly2 Jul 24, 2021

You'll be spending a lot of money in exercising the options. With so much dilution, there will be stock reverse split during ipo. This will bring down your current anticipated growth in TC. Sofi is a consumer business. Lots of potential to grow.

Netskope RzVR07 Jul 24, 2021

That’s a lot of shares. Sr level cannot get that many shares.

Netskope kFwO70 Jul 24, 2021

First thought - Clarify the Bonus structure with your recruiter. It's convoluted and you won't get anything in your first year. Second thought - The UI (frontend) dept is amongst the worst in the company right now and in great internal turmoil. You may want to steer clear if you value peace of mind and competent coworkers.

Netskope OFbB25 Jul 24, 2021

Second thought - I read it as very easy to get promoted situation 🤷‍♀️

Netskope RzVR07 Jul 27, 2021

Lots of changes in UI team indeed. I think that’s a good thing.