Never choose Amazon even if you have no choice
I saw a lot of persons compare Amazon offer with other company. But as SDE working in Amazon AWS for two years, I would like to give a warning to person never work in Amazon, never choose to work in this company even if you have no choice. Everyone know that Amazon hire bar is really low, lower than Google, Microsoft and Facebook. Someone even do not need interview can get Amazon offer. Actually, the reason is that the team hire you to put you in PIP quota. Trust me this is real, when I am the interviewer of Amazon, my manager told me that just let someone pass interview, and put them in PIP after one year, since no one in our team want to be put in PIP. Another thing is that never think you could learn some cool tech in Amazon since 95% of SDE in Amazon just do boring operation work everyday. Also Amazon’s deployment pipeline is really poor, all the operation is manual, and it is usual case that someone broke pipeline will block other guys deployment. Also do not think Amazon brand is good, actually when go to Google, Microsoft and Facebook from Amazon . They will give less salary and slow promotion speed since they known Amazon do not have bonus and hard to promote to high level. I still remember one Chinese SDE suicide when he just participate Amazon for three months. A lot of my friends also face same issue as him.
why u still have microsoft tag then?
Because one cannot edit the company name when u change your employer. His former employer should be Ms.
What level SDE are you, and what makes you think that the issues you’ve experienced are universal rather than related to a bad manager?
Certainly more than one bad manager , blind and other sources ( nytimes ) are full of incidents like these . FB has tough wlb but how many posts do u see from FB like these ?
Is it that bad? Holy crap. I have an interview for AWS :( service catalog team
Gross generalization of a huge company. Obviously everyone will have different experiences so unsure what the point of this post is.
Certainly more than one bad manager , blind and other sources ( nytimes ) are full of incidents like these . FB has tough wlb but how many posts do u see from FB like these ?
I mean, yes you can go to Amazon and hope you get into one of those mythical "really nice teams". I hear they exist, somewhere out there. I mean, they must, right? Amazon is a huge place. Ooooor... you can not play russian roulette with your career.
Arvind
And this is the nth time an Amazon employee has criticized Amazon. Tell us something new 🤷🏻♂️
I call bullshit on your hiring for PIP pipeline comment.
The hire for pip thing is new to me but nice to know that. The deployment pipeline is actually very good because we have auto deployment without manual intervals and everyone is responsible for their own deployment. The boring thing is the internal infrastructure is quite good so less is learned but it is still enough for a junior engineer. When I was looking for new job, MS is the only one low ball me. Others like Google give higher salary but lower level but not for FB. I heard the Chinese SDE suicide because his manager put him to pip. The manager himself was pip then. There are good managers and bad managers in Amazon. The problem here is manager in Amazon has so much power that could influence the engineer’s work life so your experience largely depends on your manager. Although I also don’t recommend Amazon to others but the experience op mentioned is not always the case in Amazon :p
You’re Chinese and ur manager told you this?