New grad offers

Uber / Eng
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Uber Eng

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Nov 28, 2019 36 Comments

Uber:
118k base
Signing: 10k
Stocks:27.5k X 4 years RSU

Microsoft
110k Base
Signing: 40K
Stocks: 120K

Amazon:
112k base
Signing: 36k first year 22k second
Stocks: 80k rsu with the cliff you already know

Target bonus etc not included
Background: a return offer to Uber, but after recent layoffs and reorg etc they're not sure what team I'll go to and won't have headcounts at all until a date after my acceptance deadline. I could go to Seattle or SF team for same tc, and I liked my old team a lot but am uncertain about future for Uber

Microsoft started with a team I didn't want but is in process of looking for more relevant team, Seattle

Amazon for Seattle

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TOP 36 Comments
  • Microsoft eito36
    feel like msft is not great for new grads tbh. powershell and c# aren’t common in the industry. as an ex amazon, i say go to uber and come back to microsoft after 4-5 years if you want
    Nov 28, 2019 7
    • Microsoft EwNc66
      yeah, thats the problem with microsoft, its hard to move outside, you will have a black mark with some experience depending on the team that actually is not portable outside.
      Nov 29, 2019
    • Uber / Eng
      djjeifjd

      Uber Eng

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      Is the black mark that bad ?
      Nov 29, 2019
  • Salesforce peaceguy
    Why does Uber pay so low to new grads ?
    Nov 28, 2019 8
    • Salesforce peaceguy
      My frnd who worked at Uber, says he never want to work for Uber again.
      He hated his time there.
      Nov 28, 2019
    • Microsoft EwNc66
      Uber is on the downslide, so what you see is likely the max ;)
      Nov 29, 2019
  • Do uber/microsoft have a bonus?
    Nov 28, 2019 3
    • Ok I see.

      I would definitely stay at Uber btw, unless you really need job security for immigration reasons.

      As a new grad, I would value short-term career growth / learning potential much more than long-term company stability.
      Nov 28, 2019
    • Uber / Eng
      djjeifjd

      Uber Eng

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      A commenter below said partially because of exclusive industry tech like.power shell.or c# the growth carry over isn't great. And in general they say Microsoft is really really chill this slow, if you can confirm or deny that, or if that is true how much would it affect how much I grow.

      On the other hand is Uber's stability issues something I should be concerned about
      Nov 28, 2019
  • It's less stable but there are a lot of things going on for a lot of products. I think a new grad would on avg grow faster at Uber
    Nov 28, 2019 0
  • Amazon bMrd67
    Accept MSFT, keep interviewing until next may. If no better offers, interview after a year at MSFT or first promotion (should take a year to 1.5 years)
    Nov 28, 2019 3
    • Amazon bMrd67
      Only if it’s worth it
      Nov 28, 2019
    • Salesforce peaceguy
      Won't MSFT ban him forever ?
      Nov 28, 2019
  • New EjlI35
    Was in the same boat as you last month with MSFT vs Uber. I ended up going with Uber. From the research I did, most new grads at uber were able to reach SDE 2 in under 2 years. At that point, their TC is significantly more than SDE 2 at msft. Even with the lower salary initially (for a year only), I feel like you’ll have a better chance at being surrounded with smarter people which should be the highest priority so you are able to grow into a more competent swe.
    Nov 30, 2019 2
    • Uber / Eng
      djjeifjd

      Uber Eng

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      What team are you on right now? And how do you feel about your decisions
      Nov 30, 2019
    • New EjlI35
      I’m still in school. Unaware of which team. I feel confident that I weighed out both my options extensively through research online and reaching out to people in industry before making my decision. I concluded that I am willing to take a risk early on in my career for more potential of growth
      Nov 30, 2019
  • Congrats on the offers! Did u negioate with Amazon at all?
    Nov 28, 2019 2
    • Amazon new grad is non-negotiable
      Nov 29, 2019
    • Uber / Eng
      djjeifjd

      Uber Eng

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      Yea only Microsoft was negotiable
      Nov 30, 2019
  • These are pretty low, try to negotiate?
    Dec 4, 2019 1
    • Uber / Eng
      djjeifjd

      Uber Eng

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      Uber and Amazon won't budget and since I wasn't returning to Amazon or Microsoft j didn't get the most amazing package that my returning interns friends did, and I guess I didn't place L60 in Microsoft
      Dec 5, 2019
  • Salesforce peaceguy
    Are you a Masters student ?
    Nov 28, 2019 1
    • Uber / Eng
      djjeifjd

      Uber Eng

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      I am not
      Nov 30, 2019

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