New grad offers
Uber: 118k base Signing: 10k Stocks:27.5k X 4 years RSU Microsoft 110k Base Signing: 40K Stocks: 120K Amazon: 112k base Signing: 36k first year 22k second Stocks: 80k rsu with the cliff you already know Target bonus etc not included Background: a return offer to Uber, but after recent layoffs and reorg etc they're not sure what team I'll go to and won't have headcounts at all until a date after my acceptance deadline. I could go to Seattle or SF team for same tc, and I liked my old team a lot but am uncertain about future for Uber Microsoft started with a team I didn't want but is in process of looking for more relevant team, Seattle Amazon for Seattle
Why does Uber pay so low to new grads ?
Well their base is the highest, although it was 112 before and inthink they upped it after firing and PR
I mean Uber was compared to the big 4 in prestige, so was comparing their base with them. Also Salesforce pays 150k base to new grads with previous work ex. Also many others pay around 125-130k base Salesforce pays a sign on of 40k
feel like msft is not great for new grads tbh. powershell and c# arenât common in the industry. as an ex amazon, i say go to uber and come back to microsoft after 4-5 years if you want
Will my first 3 years at Microsoft really be so stunted compared.to Uber? Genuinely asking and concerned
No you will be fine. Also itâs really team dependent.
Accept MSFT, keep interviewing until next may. If no better offers, interview after a year at MSFT or first promotion (should take a year to 1.5 years)
Are you suggesting to renege ?
Only if itâs worth it
It's less stable but there are a lot of things going on for a lot of products. I think a new grad would on avg grow faster at Uber
Congrats on the offers! Did u negioate with Amazon at all?
Amazon new grad is non-negotiable
Yea only Microsoft was negotiable
Are you a Masters student ?
I am not
Was in the same boat as you last month with MSFT vs Uber. I ended up going with Uber. From the research I did, most new grads at uber were able to reach SDE 2 in under 2 years. At that point, their TC is significantly more than SDE 2 at msft. Even with the lower salary initially (for a year only), I feel like youâll have a better chance at being surrounded with smarter people which should be the highest priority so you are able to grow into a more competent swe.
What team are you on right now? And how do you feel about your decisions
Iâm still in school. Unaware of which team. I feel confident that I weighed out both my options extensively through research online and reaching out to people in industry before making my decision. I concluded that I am willing to take a risk early on in my career for more potential of growth
Do uber/microsoft have a bonus?
Uber has a 12.5k yearly Target bonus, Microsoft has a range from 0 to 20% on stock and salary based on performance
Ok I see. I would definitely stay at Uber btw, unless you really need job security for immigration reasons. As a new grad, I would value short-term career growth / learning potential much more than long-term company stability.