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helloyyu

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helloyyu
Nov 22, 2021 53 Comments

I have competing offers from Meta, Doordash, Snap and Stripe. Yet funnily Google recruiter says that we can't match the TC and told our stock is bit stable and we have good WLB( I laughed so hard at this after call, can this be reason to lowball)!

Is Google now used only for increasing TC at other companies? 2 teammates apart from me are also interviewing and the only thing common between us in companies is Google 😂 and Obviously Amazon

YOE-1.7
TC(170)

All of my offers are between 260-280k excluding Google. They are no where near currently

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  • Google
    fNbb82

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    fNbb82
    Level at G?
    Nov 22, 2021 20
    • Amazon
      ninjadojo😜

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      ninjadojo😜
      what's the average initial offer that google usually gives L4 with no competing offers? Is 4yr average 266k possible?
      Nov 22, 2021
    • Google
      MelGibson

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      MelGibson
      Yeah location matters but they do front loaded vesting now (33% first two years)

      Something like 150 salary, 15% yearly bonus, 250 stock is probably reasonable.
      Nov 22, 2021
  • Intel
    naughty_BK

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    naughty_BK
    Google is known to do this. Nothing surprising. Blind is filled with similar posts.
    Nov 22, 2021 6
  • Google
    wqry

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    wqry
    Why is google a low ball but other companies it’s just their pay? For example Disney, Deloitte, Pwc, etc do not pay as high and ppl accept it.

    Maybe google feels it doesn’t need to as it has more to offer then money.
    Nov 22, 2021 5
    • Google
      wqry

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      wqry
      I’m just saying that it’s not a good or bad thing. You want higher comp, great, go get it elsewhere.

      For most of us at goog, we are happy with the comp and benefits. Also working with top people doesn’t equal more money.

      Some of the smartest ppl I met are outside tech.
      Nov 22, 2021
    • Disney
      fiction

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      fiction
      Cries in Disney…
      Nov 23, 2021
  • Google
    gamesquid

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    gamesquid
    Its about leverage just like most things in life. You may think you are really great but compared to senior folks at google its unlikely you are. Thats true for even me btw so its not a brag, just reality. Other companies hire google L5 for their (ML/Systems team), google hires people who wrote the textbook on those fields.

    To note googles wlb and great stock growth is really underrated. I am making ~350k as a 3.5 yoe L4. I dont think many companies could beat it significantly and with the wlb that allows me to pursue things outside work. And i am working on projects which I decide to and is pretty innovative. Other startup companies are too focussed on short term wins that they cant allow their engineers to pursue high impact long term projects. But again thats what I like.
    Nov 22, 2021 4
    • Amazon
      helloyyu

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      helloyyu
      OP
      When am I denying this but when the market is crazy people want to earn more as 500k in 5 years would be like 200k. I personally feel coasting in general does bad especially when you are young
      Nov 22, 2021
    • Google
      gamesquid

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      gamesquid
      ^helloyyu thats my point at google L5 is not really senior or even special.
      The good engineers at google are almost all L7IC+ and compared to them most l5 google engineers are average.
      Nov 22, 2021
  • I increased my L4 Google offer by 40% without any competing offer. So they do increase. This is London though
    Nov 23, 2021 3