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Been a L4 for 2 and a half years now. Manager just gives some BS reasons for not promoting while he has promoted 2 other folks. I have delivered more things and have worked on more things than them. If you go by CR stats, mine are double than them in posted and commented. I have done Ops wins, wrote dozen docs while other folks have just written 1-2 doc which fits the promo narrative. L6 says you need a big project to get promoted, but there are no opportunities. And even if I do it, no point in promo apart from the ego boost. One L6 says the manager didn't do a good job of selling my profile to the panel. Feels like shit to be played by manager dangling the carrot. He even said the $ diff between L4 and L5 is not much, and some more lies. Even talked some BS about how am I am an "extrovert" - some kind of sit down comedy? 🤡 I am pissed of and just wanted to vent out. I have led projects and other L4s/L5s while L6 is busy attending "design" meetings. This shit is so tiring, i worked by ass off for 2 years to get handed 🍌with extra topping of 🥜 with side dish of 🥕. TC: 140k lol edit: yes, i have been talking with manager regularly. He never initiates the conversation. I have a summary doc, which I keep updated and keep telling him about it regularly. #amazon #faang #promo #peanuts #banana #carrot #promotion
Are you an SDE 1?
Change teams, find a new job, do something about it.
yeah trying to jump ship ASAP
Your manager sees a noogler in you and wants you to solve leetcode. Read between the lines .........
Same here, different company. Focus on yourself and move on You'll find someone that appreciates your hard work and talent and will fight for your promotion The only way I've moved up was by moving on.
thanks, appreciate the assurance!
Maybe you haven't started the promo conversation earlier. Getting promo is not about doing more work, it's about asking your manager whether the work you have done is enough or not. Writing promo doc also takes several months. Put effort to write project summaries and show it to your manager. Even after all this you don't see your manager caring about your growth switch teams after the promotion.
Always work with manager for promo to set expectation, timelines, and path to promo… Amazon or outside.. I don’t say this as a manager but as an ex-IC who got burned expecting things to be handed over to when when I met the bar…
Sounds like you should switch teams if you don’t see a path to promo on your current team. Also, rather than focusing on what you are doing, ask your manager specifically what you aren’t doing that’s keeping you from getting promoted, and work on those weaknesses
he has nothing substantial which is stopping the promo. He says you need to be better in tech "y" even when I have done lot of things in it and other people have been promoted who havn't who are the same or worse than me in "y"
You ever have 1:1 with your skip? If not, you should. Just set one up with them sometime. Then try and get their perspective and earnestly seek their feedback and advice on how you can get that promo to go through. And if not, just switch teams/orgs
Apparently, this is pretty typical. Just happened to me, denied promo. Doing way more cross functional, high impact, super visible work then any one else (especially those at the next level but in the same role). Everyone else who goes up gets it first go, but are in different roles under different managers. there is no clear difference in their contributions of work or the work they got promoted for is demonstrably less sophisticated and scaled. The panel feedback is nonsensical and contradicts the leveling guidelines for my role. It's just, "do more projects", "take the feedback and own it", and bullshit empty promises from my skip. I'm frustrated and confused. I don't understand why this is happening...it makes it very hard to trust the process and accept the feedback when you have been lied to, kept in the dark and absolutely working my ass off for 1.5 years is "not quite enough, just 6 more months".
Very similar to my position. Just LC and GTFO. That’s what I am doing.
did you switch? on the same boat
Stop trying to promo, leetcode and gtfo
trying to!!