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Hi everyone, I am current at AWS @ Seattle with L5 and 5 YOE. TC 290k. I love my team at AWS but not sure about the promotion and cliff will happen soon. Got offers from Google, Airbnb, and Square. Airbnb Seattle 200K + 592K Equity + 40k sign on, 15% bonus Google Kirkland 178K + 424K equity + 22.5k sign on, 15% bonus. Initial offer, going to use Airbnb to compete. Square L5 Seattle 188K + 550K equity. No sign on, no bonus I am struggling with Airbnb and Google. There is huge difference between them. Is it worthwhile to give up Airbnb's big offer for Google? Does working at Google provide better value for long term career growth? I am also concerned about Airbnb's future and tech. Anyone has any insight on its future? I also heard the tech at Airbnb is not so good. Infra is awful as well. I am afraid I might not able to learn a lot. Do not consider Square as the team is not exciting and it has bad refreshers? Thanks. #Google #Airbnb #Square UPDATE: I signed with Google for family reasons. Also it matched with Airbnb. Thanks for your help. This is a great community!
What’s wrong with square?
Bad refreshers I heard.
How bad exactly? Can't just say bad and not give anything concrete
How are Google and Airbnb’s refreshers better than Square? Genuinely curious!
Your new TCs don’t seem to be higher than that or AWS. Why are you leaving for same TC ?
Because it's still better than the shackles at Amazon?
Sure, it is possible that is the motivation . I just wanted to understand if that is the case …
Have you tried negotiating some of these up?
Google is not willing to increase at all. They give me the offer as final. No negotiation, even though I gave them the Airbnb offer.
Try again. Say this I really want to work for "team matched" cause blah. On the other hand I have financial obligations (kids wife parents) looking for new house so money is important to So and me. I would accept today if you matched abnb, but need to talk over with So otherwise. Make it clear you will accept if TC matches. Most recruiters will budge if they fear losing you for outside reasons, add a backstory and that the decision is out of your control.
I'd go for square or Google.
Why is that? Why not Airbnb?
Airbnb is good but I heard it's political depending on team you fall in.
Is the offer by Google the initial offer? If not there is room to negotiate. I got more than this without competing offers and u have great competing offers
Yes it is initial offer and final offer as well. Recruiter told me there is no space to negotiate. She said the policy changed recently and they cannot give higher. When did you get your Google offer?
Check dm
Your Google offer seems to be less than your current TC in AWS. Are you currently in Bay area?
Yeah that's right. It is less. I am in Seattle.
Did you negotiate your offer with Google recruiter? I would assume switching jobs at least deserves a 10% TC bump
You should expect refreshers around 1/4 of the original grant, we're not Amazon...
Yeah I was gonna say, no way refreshers are as bad as here
congrats OP. do you mind sharing your interview experience with Square? Wondering if they ask LC questions for the pair programming rounds
No LC question at all. They asked a practical question in pair programming with lots of followups.
any tips on how i should prep?
What is effort like for promotion at Airbnb?
I heard it is faster than Google. ~3 years? still depend on teams.
Google 4-5 is less than 3 years if you are good (2 years is a reasonable target, although there is def some luck involved)