Oracle Cloud Infra vs Pure Storage
Financially both are roughly offering the same. I'm looking for a distributed systems exposure in this stint. Pure is putting me in the sync repl team. OCI in storage server team. OCI is planning to rewrite their individual storage servers. But didn't get what was the DS story there as they are still trying to scale up each node by scaling HW resources. Also, I'm concerned about OCIs future and stability. They are way behind AWS and if they don't reach a reasonable place in a year, they may layoff ppl. Both are bay area positions.
If oracle backs out that means mark and safra don’t have their jobs
Numbers and level please
IC3 at Oracle and MTS4 ( this is what HR said ) at Pure. Sorry unable to reveal numbers. But I'm looking more on the work side than on the comp side
Dude, this is blind. Your are expecting ppl to help and you not help others? What the fuck. Most of the discussion are about numbers
Hey OP What is your work experience? Since you are in storage space I would suggest pure might be good option compared to oracle
@OP, How was your interview experience with OCI? Even I come from a systems background and have my Onsite with them next week. Any system level questions asked?
Oracle interviews are totally all over the place. There isn't a coordinated interview process. First time I joined Oracle, the manager wasn't even there. So one guy talked to me and he could care less. I got in. Then time I was asked one semi technical Java question and rest was conversation. But then I heard a low level engineer giving an interview. And he was asking the specific syntax of how you would use awk to do something. I was like wtf?
I was told the interview loop will be customized to my profile. I have split interviews with 2 teams.
Here’s some insider scoop for you, the current architecture of storage bad and the performance suck. The bulk of engineers working on the storage rewrite are in Seattle office. 👍
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The OCI Object Storage system is a core distributed system problem. Think joining S3 in 2006. The current system is ok and will meet short term scale. However, like all system design, there’s a lot of work that needs to be done to scale to 100s of PBs of storage and terabits of bandwidth. There’s dist system work to be done across all levels of the stack. Storage server itself needs a redesign so that it can work on denser nodes (for lower cost), scale on a single box and across boxes for things like re-rep, migration, erasure coding in the future, etc. I think OCI has a tremendous opportunity to grow fast and become a serious player in the cloud space. Initial business is going to be Oracle customers moving over. There is risk, but I think any truly interesting opportunity will always have risk.
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I had an offer from Oracle and I joined Pure. My decision was based on the quality of the people. I asked to have lunch with the team that I’d be working with before deciding at both places. At Oracle, everyone was smart but there were 2 sharp guys at oracle out of 6 that stood out. At Pure, all 5 of the guys I had lunch with stood out. To me, working with smarter people was the drag to Pure. In my case, it also helped that they offered 40k more
Thanks buddy. Did you have offer from OCI or normal Oracle? Are you now in flashblade or flash array? Any inputs on flash blade vs array?
Here’s a copy paste on what I told someone else about this topic: I think the answer totally depends on what you end up doing inside each product. Disclaimer: I work on the FlashArray team and have also turned down chances to move to FlashBlade. To me, it’s not about distributed systems vs not. FlashBlade is a much newer product and that entails growing pains. They have under 80 engineers and I bet the management layer is still being sorted. FlashArray has been around much longer and is a better oiled machine. I prefer to focus on a hard problem with few distractions and I think FlashBlade needs more people that want to just add value and will multitask and solve the multiple problems of the given day/week/month
Ok this is a cop out but I'd keep looking. I guess pure seems better than oracle but seems like there must be lots of companies that would be better to join now.
Pure will definitely be a better experience. I have worked in several legacy large companies (not ORCL but have several friends there so I know) and it's a breath of fresh air working at Pure.
Put yourself in the shoes of someone joining pure now. How far from a legacy large company are we really?
We are definitely not a startup anymore, but we are way more agile that “legacy large companies”
Oracle cannot afford to not fight the cloud battle and they will and not layoff ppl