Tech IndustryMay 15, 2016
AmazonIhavedream

Oracle Public cloud vs Amazon ?

I am at Amazon. Got offer from oracle public cloud. When I told Amazon they matched it. What should I do. I have i-140 approved from Amazon. Oracle is willing to do that process. Any suggestion what should I do ?

Amazon Ihavedream OP May 15, 2016

Please help.

Amazon SGHQ78 May 15, 2016

Make Oracle give you better offer, not worth moving for a match to a less innovative company

Amazon Ihavedream OP May 15, 2016

First of all thanks for advise to everyone. If oracle offering more money then how much more does it worth to go to oracle and have my PERM and I140 process start all over again. If I stay at Amazon I have i140 approved.

Microsoft MxEF60 May 15, 2016

Is your situation going to be be better if you reapplied with Oracle, for example if you are on EB3 now, will you qualify for EB2 when applying with Oracle due to counting Amazon's years of experience

Amazon randomion May 15, 2016

Oracle Public Cloud has some exciting stuff going on. Unless you are doing crappy work at AWS (I'm assuming you are at AWS) - I agree with SGHQ78, stay at Amazon. Not worth moving for the same amount of Moolah

Amazon Ihavedream OP May 15, 2016

First of all thanks for advise to everyone. If oracle offering more money then how much more does it worth to go to oracle and have my PERM and I140 process start all over again. If I stay at Amazon I have i140 approved.

Google tdap May 15, 2016

if you are going to do cloud either do the incumbent (Amazon, MSFT) or the up and comer. Oracle is only know for lawsuits.

Oracle ClouDev May 15, 2016

This is a sad perspective. Is it related to current court battle? ;-)

Google tdap May 16, 2016

nope. related to Oracle's legal moves over the past years as compared to innovation. although the court battle is a good example!

Amazon Ihavedream OP May 15, 2016

First of all thanks for advise to everyone. If oracle offering more money then how much more does it worth to go to oracle and have my PERM and I140 process start all over again. If I stay at Amazon I have i140 approved.

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Amazon Ihavedream OP May 15, 2016

Thanks.

Oracle ClouDev May 15, 2016

I'd also consider room for personal n professional growth as one consideration for changing paths. For example, becoming staff, architect, manager, etc vs staying at current level.

Uber 1485 May 16, 2016

How many years do you think it would take for your priority date to be current? If you think it's going to take more than 3-4 years to be current, I would say negotiate higher salary with Oracle and move. Green card process hinders career growth specially if you are born in India or China.

Amazon Ihavedream OP May 16, 2016

Yes, it is going to take at-least 4 to 5 years to get my priority date current. I am going to try that. Let see what happens. Also how much money does it worth to take chance and start for PERM and i140 all over again.

Amazon randomion May 16, 2016

Ihavedream - Everyone's going to have a different answer to that. Are you happy at your current job? All else being equal (job satisfaction, mainly), I would need (atleast) 25-30% bump in total comp to move to Oracle (from AWS). I'm at the higher end of my band and about 3-4 years away from my GC. The increase is to account for the hassle of getting over inertia, slightly weaker brand and the Immigration paperwork. From what I know, Oracle usually beats those numbers.

Oracle ClouDev May 16, 2016

My personal ranking for a career move to any company: - immigration (if needed). - challenge to solve or mainstream area? - career growth opportunities. - comp.

Amazon rabbit May 16, 2016

I worked at Oracle in the past. Oracle's immigration attorneys (BAL Global) are not very prompt in their paperwork. They took 13 months to file my GC from the moment I initiated my PERM request. Whereas Amazon's attorneys (Fragomen) filed the PERM in less than 3-4 months. The yearly comp review/bonus structure is very haphazard. If you are a star performer, you can get a promotion soon. Promotions do not necessarily come with pay hikes. I am not discouraging you from join Oracle, but make sure you have your expectations set.