Google low ball?

Aug 11, 2017 33 Comments

Passed HC - told I'm slotted as L4 (PM) and gave some salary expectations. This is for bay area.

Recruiter told me she'll try but base is usually 120k? And asking for 350k gsu is too high?

Comp seems ridiculously low. Is this legit?

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  • Meggitt / Eng
    anon10101

    Meggitt Eng

    anon10101
    I think the base is average for l4, the rsu is def. out of range for that level tho.. you're asking for nearly 100k in stocks each year at its current valuation.. + 15% bonus that you get.. would put you at total comp of 225
    Aug 11, 2017 6
    • Google / Eng
      BsfG61

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      BsfG61
      >>250k total comp (130k base) with a no-name startup
      Is the other 120k of your startup compensation simply noname start-up pre-ipo stock? If yes, then it is not really fair to compare GOOG (which is almost as good as cash) to monopoly money (no offense ;)
      Aug 13, 2017
    • IBM
      Kinetix

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      Kinetix
      Other part of my startup has immediate liquidity due to ICO tokens
      Aug 13, 2017
  • Google
    WFDV56

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    WFDV56
    This looks mid range for l4 pm, your gsu request is way high, aim for around 200k. In general, Google targets initially at about 95% of market rate because they don't want the money hogs. In the long run, if yiu do well, get promoed to l5 in say 18-24 months, i assure yiu the comp gods will take care of yiu very very well. But right now, the only data point is yoir interview, past performance outside of Google at this level is a wash, its no indication yiu can function and thrive in a 70k person company, its a whole new skill set. Being successful at Google and being rewarded for it is no small feat and not a given.
    Aug 12, 2017 3
    • Google
      WFDV56

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      WFDV56
      Ok.... But i know what the offers are, what the methodology is, and i manage quite a descent size staff.... So.... Speaking from actual data and not hersay. Also, when yiu have 4 playets in the market, all vying for the same people, and all have interest to control cost, what do you think happens? Take a look at the automotive or airline industry, there is a reason why similar products at similar points in tbe market roughly cost the same.
      Aug 12, 2017
    • OP
      Thanks for the response

      Everything you said makes sense except the last part. Coming from MS I assume the 70k size isn't a big difference
      Aug 12, 2017
  • Microsoft / Other
    Dгuոk@Woгk

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    Dгuոk@Woгk
    GSUs are awarded based on interview performance so you have to have an idea how you scored before you even go there
    Aug 11, 2017 3
  • Amazon / Product
    JyAF05

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    JyAF05
    Definitely low
    Aug 11, 2017 0