Dell EMC- Unprofessional at its best
Just came here to take out some of my frustration and aware people that they don’t fall prey to what I went through at Dell interviewing for last three months. March - Got a call through a recruiter reaching out to me for a Senior Systems Engineer role serving the central midwest areas. Talked regarding the salary ~220k ( 160 k base and rest in sales incentives ) and everything that goes well with the compensation. Was told that Its in the ballpark. Talked about stock equity and was told its on a case by case basis. I am at a senior role and it made sense to make a move w.r.t compensations April- Whole month went through a 6-7 different interviews ( individual / panel/ presentations ). At the end, I was told that they really liked me / technical interviews and started talks of verbal offer. The verbal offer came to be 40-50 k less than what we agreed on. (133 k base and 40-45 k as sales incentive ). When i tried to negotiate , i was told that they will work to get me the number that they agreed on. May- The whole month , they kept on blindsiding me that they have to take more interviews for HR purposes and kept on delaying. Finally after a whole month and several follow ups , the manager told me that they went another candidate in another geography. When i reached out to recruiter, he mentioned that it was due to the salary and they couldn’t work with that number ( while it was to be precise the same number that he gave to me ) What could have been an easy negotiation, they tried to blindfold me for months and frustrated till the last moment to lie. Its frustrating to see a company like Dell behaving in this manner and working like cheapskates while boasting in the industry 91 billion dollar revenue industry. At its core, they are still behaving not more than a bodyshop who try to belittle people without any respect. I hope folks at Dell or who want to apply at Dell should know about this on how their managers and recruiters are playing in the industry.
People are leaving Dell, the culture sucks.. if there are options i would not suggest Dell.
Have been told the same thing by someone leaving.
Whatever the recruiter posted is BS in your initial phone conversation and the offer is what possible. 160k base is i8/i9 range. And other note Dell is onto financial engineering. So don't expect quality candidates to last at Dell. I know most of my teammates are leaving Dell with peasantry raise they gave after last gold rush. Dell is severely outsourcing the job to low cost countries and I'm seeing it.
I agree 💯.. the R&D dollars goes into financial engineering. They killed the EMC culture after acquisition.
Sounds like they quoted you Advisory level pay, not Senior level pay. Sucks for sure. But the offer you got for senior was fair. For perspective I was hired in at senior and was at $164k. About 130 base and 34k commission.
Wasting 2 months of someone’s time with 7 round of interviews and panel rounds with 20 questions to be presented while saying its in the ballpark from the start. Yes sucks and waste of time.
2 months of interviews is normal and typically only seen for candidates that they are seriously interested in. Yes they quoted him the wrong pay range for the position they were hiring for.
Name and shame the recruiter & HM
Dell sucks wrt pay, interview process as they r all old school. U cud potentially be on their hit list if u r not loyal to the HM. Talent, experience and ur skill set rarely matters to survive at Dell.
I have had this happen. Was given a verbal for a job and received off 30 min later that had a different number. HM made a “mistake”. BS
I completely echo OPs sentiments. This is a bait and switch company. They made me move from a cushy role and dangled a TOC and role. Their offer letter doesn’t even mention how many years the RSUs are for - one time or every year and the vesting period. Buyer beware ! As far as the culture , I’m working with dinosaurs - all my coworkers joined the company 25 years plus ago
You should also post this on LinkedIn. This is some bs way to treat candidates.
I wish I can. My existing employer is on linkedin and dont want to give mixed messages. I wish if i was on a position to do it, i would have gone to linkedin and twitter. Now if somebody has email of personal michael dell email, that will be :)
Sadly i don't think Michael Dell is going to give a sht. I mean it's Dell after all.