Misc.Apr 10, 2019
Flexportfruit ninja

Pay inequality between engineers and ops

What’s everyone’s opinion on the pay inequality in tech. I’ve noticed companies like Square and Flexport severely underpay operations (60-90k) while new grad TC might be (140-180k) as an engineer. Does the difference in work and impact really equate to that big of a salary difference?

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Amazon dndn3j2b Apr 10, 2019

Why dont you do eng work yourself and find out? It's seriously not that challenging to get an entry level dev position I mean if you're complaining about this then you might as well complain about how restaurant/factory/warehouse workers are underpaid. They work pretty hard too

Twitter eoCp41 Apr 10, 2019

Simple supply and demand. Besides work and impact also consider the skills required and the scarcity of those skill sets

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dblistyt Apr 10, 2019

I have a very dumb question: what is ops? hw engineer here, just curious

Oracle pzd Apr 10, 2019

Operations. Think sysadmin but fancier. They are responsible for ensuring uptime, server management, database maintenance, that sort of stuff. Actual responsibility varies across co.

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dblistyt Apr 10, 2019

I understand, thank you

NewRelic m821 Apr 11, 2019

Keeping it real, most companies are eliminating ops roles while they adopt cloud providers like aws. Better off transitioning into a devops role somewhere.

Oracle pzd Apr 11, 2019

Past a certain size, you absolutely need operations, with or without AWS.

Flexport fr45al Apr 13, 2019

The impact of an engineer is proportional to the size of the business. Impact of operational work is proportional to hours worked.