People from Google, Facebook and Amazon. How do you decide what level do you give a new hire?

Dec 17, 2017 20 Comments

I have read that the most important thing is interview performance. However, I have also read that interview loops are different for different levels. That suggests that there is a substantial influence coming from what's in the CV, right?

I am especially interested in what it takes to be T6(Google),E6(Facebook) and L7(Amazon). Levels at which the compensation begins to be ridiculously higher than the equivalent in Microsoft (L65-L66).

Would you ever give someone at L63 at Microsoft a loop for those levels? No way, right? Therefore no matter if the candidate kills the interview, would not get a shot at something higher than T5,E5,L6. Is this right?

So, what determines the maximum level you can aspire to (assuming you do as good as possible in the interview).

Your current level / Title? Does it matter what company?. FANG, apple/Microsoft/nvidia, unicorn, smaller/less prestigious company us company, Chinese company, non-tech company, other foreign company, small startup. How do you map levels for anything other than the biggest companies?

Your current compensation? (Just try you for the level that has closer to the TC you have)

What you have on your CV (milestones , academic/education credentials)

What internal references say?

I believe that understanding what comes in to play to grow when switching (the fastest way to grow) can be an important factor in making career choices.

If truly only the interview matters, please describe how you determine the level from the interview alone.

For convenience, I included a poll. You can choose multiple options. Please describe your thoughts too.

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TOP 20 Comments
  • Google Linkedin
    Most likely you’ll get Google T4 and FB E5 if you apply as MS 63.
    Dec 17, 2017 14
    • Microsoft Knicker
      Google interviews were finished ~10 minutes before time. G asks 1 question, and interviewers don’t give any intro. I asked questions in the end.

      FB interviewers asks 2 questions and I asked questions in the end. In one interview I recommended the interviewer that he could make the question more interesting or harder by making *few* small changes, and he could ask that as a follow up.

      I found FB questions harder than Google, but seemed predictable.

      Google interview was easier in difficulty but required some work to arrive to a solution.
      Dec 18, 2017
    • Gartner Remi
      @Knicker Can you give the references to papers on Spanner, DynamoDB, Thrift, Kafka, Cassandra, Gnutella (P2P), bitcoin? I found a good one on Paxos.
      Jul 21, 2018
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    • Microsoft / Eng munra
      OP
      Amazon is considering me now for L6, but I agree. Last time I got a L5 offer from Amazon which I declined. They even had a former Microsoft employee at L65 trying to convince me that L5 maps to L65 in msft.
      Now Amazon is considering me for L6 after all, but seems like a very opaque process. I don't get what is used to determine what loop you get.
      Dec 17, 2017
    • Amazon pk5vq4
      A 65 with outdated/lacking skills could definitely get L5. Most 65s will get L6.
      Dec 17, 2017

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