I was put into Pivot at Amazon, and my situation is particular due to the team structure. I am curious of how often people succeed when taking the PIP, because right now I’m in a deep hole that I don’t know if I would be able to go out of. Also, do you have any recommendations overall if I choose the PIP over the leave? Is it worth it considering appealing? Due to my situation I think I can make the case, but since I’m pretty shocked by the news I don’t know if I want to put myself under the stress of the appealing Please advice! I have like 3 days left to decide
Why were you put on a pivot to begin with? You mentioned that your situation is particular due to the team structure. Can we have more details on that? I’d appeal as soon as possible. Were you coached and mentored before they put you on a pivot? If not you have grounds to have it removed. Read this article (http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-launches-pivot-program-help-employees-in-danger-of-being-fired-2017-1) and see if Amazon followed the process. If they didn’t then use that to build a case for removal from the pivot. It’s sad to hear that not much has changed since the NYT article. Before they’d straight up put you on a PIP but now they do a pivot before giving you a choice of PIP or leave?
I was not informed how the pivot program was, I had verbal warnings to which I agreed that my performance wasn’t the best (btw my manager is remote, and also different time zone) I didn’t know I was in the coaching period since I didn’t get any coaching at all to, and then suddenly HR talked to me. I have the Pivot option and I don’t know what my PIP tasks would look like. Appealing sounds like a lot of unnecessary work for me and my manager and I do believe things can improve so going through appealing doesn’t sound good
Having a remote manager is not good. Your options for advancement are significantly lower
How does the process work? Why wouldn't you appeal? Sounds like just one extra step that but you time and maybe gets you off the hook so you can change teams without having a tarnished record. ... Are there consequences to appealing that wouldn't otherwise be a thing?
Leetcode and find the next job, dont waste more time on Amazon
there are not consequences to appealing, just a long process where you go to a trial, to prove that your manager reasons are not right
Yup don’t waste time, appeal is a sham. Take the severance,save your energy and be stress free for your next job.
Please use the search function. This kind of post has been made dozens if not hundreds of times. To answer your question though, if your manager is a decent person and you work your ass off, people succeed all the time.
Thanks! I did search but I didn’t find good indications of succeeding/not succeeding rates, nor how good is to appeal. Also, why don’t they give you any type of mentorship for the PIP besides your boss? Isn’t this the perfect set up for failure?
Finding a mentor is generally on you, not them, as I understand it. PIPs require the person to be very proactive, which I think is part of the “test”.