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I got an offer from Apple today. The position is Technical Product Manager. 175k Base + 160k stocks over 4 years + 35k sign on bonus. Year 1 TC: 250k Would my TC decrease starting year 2? What is the performance bonus at Apple like? Also do you get refreshers every year or only after 4 years? Does it mean that starting year 2, my TC will become 215k (175k base + 40k stocks)? My competing offer is from Amazon paying 265k with an average of 250k over 4 years. Role at Amazon is L5 SDE2 in Bay Area What is the future of TPM at Apple or other compnies? Please help me evaluate Apple offer. Current TC: 160k YoE: 2.5
Yes, the bonus will be counted only in the first year. Refreshers will be granted every year based on perf. Forget future of TPM, you’ll get life here 😉
Hey so what could my yearly TC be like? Do you suggest I take Apple’s offer? I am currently a Software Engineer. I would like your advice on transition. I am worried that my TC will be 215k after first year. How are the average refreshers? And also is there annual hike in base salary? Please advice.
Also do you get yearly refreshers starting year 2? Or do I have to wait 4 years to get refreshers?
How did you get A TPM role directly at Apple? Are you currently SWE or PM?
I am a SWE. Point is do you know how refreshers work at Apple?
Are you sure the recruiter isn’t trolling you? We don’t pay this much to someone with a 2.5 yoe
I am sure the recruiter isn’t trolling. I have competing offers from Amazon, FB. Also how are refreshers? Will my TC be just 215k after first year? This is AMP Org. How is Technical Product Manager position? It is a transition for me from SDE to PM
Congrats. This is a great offer given it’s from Apple. Usually we don’t care to compete other offers.
Can you explain about refreshers? Competing with my Amazon offer do you suggest Apple or Amazon? And Apple isn’t budging anymore on negotiation. How is AMP group at Apple?
Also how is internal mobility at Apple?
Is this ict4?
Yes ICT4. What would you advice between Amazon and Apple offer?
It comes down to whether you think Apple or Amazon’s stock will appreciate more. I do know that Amazon will not give refreshers if your total TC is at the high end of the band limit. So even if you exceed expectations, nothing moves.
Take Amazon, you will learn a lot and can easily transition to TPM role later
I am worried about PIP culture at Amazon. Plus I am on F1 OPT and I only have 2 more tries for H1B. I am worried what would happen if Amazon puts me on PIP.
Extremely high offer for YOE. Must be extremely high expectations too. Good luck!
Can you explain? Also could you tell me how are the refreshers for ICT4 TPM? How are Technical Product Managers perceived at Apple?
The fact that you are young and got an offer that is more common among senior people, YOE 8+. Which tells me your manager has high expectations from you. This can be a good thing, if you perform, or bad thing, if you don’t perform as expected. Keep in mind that Apple as high expectations by default, but varies per team. I am not sure for TPM, but ICT4 refreshers tends to be good: From 70-100% of base.
Apple lied to the tpm in my group about the responsibilities. All she does now is sending follow-up emails and setting up meetings..and she's being treated like a piece of shit by my manager and the people in the group. She'll be going around and begging the engineers even to compose a simple email. From the years of exp you have I'm pretty sure you're gonna be treated in a similar way..the person I'm talking abt has 15+ yrs of experience and she herself is unable to figure out how to deal with my manager and his best friends in the group that are literally abusing her by not sharing enough information she needs.. She's a really bright person that came from one of the renowned product companies where she was performing product manager duties.. Apple is a very toxic company to work..you'll be in the dream world thinking you're gonna work for apple. Think wise and make your decision..
May I ask which org it is? Also my other competing offer is L5 SDE2 from Amazon. Would you suggest I take that?
OP. There are plenty of threads about how refreshers at Apple work that a simple search and some reading will yield you. Also, if you’re concerned about Amazon PIP culture, because you’re on OPT, then the money shouldn’t be the primary area of concern. The job security should. Do a search.
Thank you. I’ve actually done research. I couldn’t find one thing. Say I get 50k refreshers at the end of first year, when do they vest? Also according to you, would moving from SDE to TPM be a good idea? In terms of H-1B.
I’d search again. 50% of the posts are about comp and rsus
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