CompensationAug 2, 2019
UberMsrk07

Proper valuation of Lime stock options

How to value Lime stock options? Let's say offer includes 200k options (over 4-year vesting schedule) at strike price of $.15. From SharesPost looks like shares are currently valued at $.24/share. So, I'm thinking current value of options is 200k * (.24 - .15) = $18k. Is this a correct valuation? How comparable is it to an offer with RSUs from now public company (say, Uber), which value is known to be $150k over 4 yrs? Doesn't even seem to be in same ballpark. Or am I reading stock options incorrectly? As an aside, if a share of Lime stock is currently valued at $.24 after series D (started at $.0136 at Series A), did Lime strategically create tons of shares to intentionally keep share price low? To what end? Even if Lime's value increases 10x, that's still only $2.40 a share.

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LinkedIn beotbtys Aug 2, 2019

Consider it $0

Reddit @@&&$$ Aug 2, 2019

That’s not how company stock options work. They aren’t the same as options contracts.

Big Switch Networks script Aug 2, 2019

You are confusing incentive stock options and stock options! 1 ISO = 1 share

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Facebook Johny Cage Aug 2, 2019

Stop posting misinformation. ISO is not the same as an option contract for public stocks

Microsoft unfanged Aug 2, 2019

So wrong. Option contracts are very different from incentive stock options.

Pinterest ⚽️🍀⚽️🍀 Aug 2, 2019

How many basis points is that ?

Uber Msrk07 OP Aug 2, 2019

clarification: offer includes option to buy 200k shares (not 200k options) at fair market value

Reddit @@&&$$ Aug 2, 2019

It’s not shares or you would have to pay tax on them. It is either RSUs or options.

Reddit @@&&$$ Aug 2, 2019

If the Series D was $0.24 the company would have to be completely incompetent to get a 409a (common stock value) of $0.15. A more typical price would be 20-30% of the preferred valuation at that stage, or $0.048 to $0.072. > Even if Lime's value increases 10x, that's still only $2.40 a share The price per share doesn’t matter at all. 10x of your grant value is still 10x whether the stock is at $2.40 a share or $240 a share.

Uber Msrk07 OP Aug 2, 2019

but aren't there optics involved? if Lime were to go public a few years from now, they wouldn't want their stock to be at $3/share, would they?

Reddit @@&&$$ Aug 3, 2019

Always easy to reverse split later.

Pinterest ⚽️🍀⚽️🍀 Aug 2, 2019

The bike sharing space is very crowded at the moment. Plus last time I checked, money raised by lime is half of their valuation at the time. This situation would screw you up if it gets acquired more or less at that valuation. If you are going there for money, brace yourselves for surprises. Go there for experience not money.

LinkedIn tar-cfz Aug 2, 2019

Zero

Uber lock_up Aug 2, 2019

A few thoughts: 1. The value of your options is only (0.24-0.15) x 200k like you calculated. However, the ratio of 409a price to preferred price is unusually high for a startup of their stage. Are you sure 0.24 is their preferred stock price? 2. You cannot compare private company stocks with unproven business so early in its life to a public company stock. You have to make a call regarding the potential of the business opportunity, team and their path so far. 3. Value of a single stock doesn’t matter. You can split or reverse split to get any number.