WITCH - Wipro, Infosys,TCS,CTS,HCL I have seen this community having a very bad impression on folks from WITCH companies. Me being one from that background, wanted to share some details. People in India starting their career on any of the WITCH companies are not dumb. These are folks from middle class backgrounds who take up these offers since they can't afford to pay money for higher education (and also mostly from mid tier colleges, where top companies do not visit for on campus recruitments) Now there are 2 classifications of folks. One set works for these companies, save up money and pay for their higher education with education loans. The other set works hard and get sponsored for H1B visa from their employer. Though we might complain that these companies exploit the system, for these employees it's a big ticket to enter US (remember only the top performing folks would be sponsored for this program). Now again there are 2 groups of people. 1 - working for the project and returning back to India. The other set of people work and get more experience and move to full time job positions (am from this set). I'm fortunate to have got the only visa from a 50 members team back then and to be in a full time position with my current employer. I'm one of the critical resources of my current team and have got promo twice in 5 years here. I wanted to write this to not look down on people who were/are from WITCH. I'm sure there would be many from Faang+ with Witch background as well. Would like to hear from them to motivate us to keep going up. Tc: from 70k to 225k in 6 years. Yoe: 9 [For my yoe, TC might look low in Blind, but am happy about where I am and also working hard to go further beyond] #tech
I am from a Witch background and currently working at FB in a full time role.
WITCH?
What is witch
Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant, HCL I think.
What is this witch?
Ban WITCH for H1b abuse
And let folks apply directly based on some kind of score.
Agree OP. Even if you are talented, you need money for good schooling that will set you up for a good university. And only if you study in a good university, you will have a prospect of ending up in Faang after graduation.
Neither did I have the money nor a good university. In the US college tier doesn't matter. Only LC matters I went to shit college in the US, got my degree in less than $20k and had interviews from all the big ones. You just need to apply with a referral and DM the University recruiters for Online assessments
Don’t care what these dudes say :)
Shouldn't it be WITCHA, A for Accenture ;) Btw...I went to a top 10 US MBA & MS programs and both times more then half the Indians in my batch were from WITCHA. All landed up in top tech, banking, consulting gigs and are doing great as Product Managers, Biz Dev folks etc. Immense respect for even those that didn't go to school here but managed to get a full time job and grow truly as a professional. I think people generally cringe about WITCHA folks thinking about the poster child image i.e. Indian who can't speak English well, does a sloppy job at coding, uses shady IT body shops for job jumping and extends all work to continue projects forever. It is not all folks but definitely more like 50%+
Or WITCHAD: D for Deloitte, we are trying very very hard to break into this group. Biggest focus right now for Deloitte is to take away the implementation, offshoring and operate type work from witch companies.
I remember in 2015, fucking everyone wanted to be in at Deloitte (HBC, Bain, McKinsey was not targettable) Maybe still ok for consultant roles?
The problem with WITCH is the mindset that those people develop. It is sometimes hard to unlearn some behaviours.
What behaviors? I want to know what I need to avoid.
Some take “Getting the job done” in an awful way. Working with junior FT and follow whatever they ask without giving any kind of guidance when they do stoopid choices, as long as the contractor’s task is easier. An other example is documentation. Even from other orgs, we know that IS&T @Apple documentation is *horrible* even after years. “It is written so what?”. Dude this POS makes your life so much harder, it was written as fast as possible to close the task ticket. “Fake it till you make it” with shiny resume listing 10yrs of experience while some are just hella junior. We can talk about how some converted to FT and keep perpetuating the horrible culture they’ve been working in for years with micromanagement and pushing people to work over time on a daily basis. I’m not saying all of them are like that though.