Have you ever hired someone (or given a preference because they are a diversity hire )? Given two equally good candidates, and you had to choose one - would you go with diversity hire? And for women/ minority folks in STEM, does it make your blood boil with rage, when people make underhand comments about how you might be in because you are a minority or because of your gender (specially if they don’t even know you, and have never worked with you ?) Full disclosure - I am a woman, yet I never felt I was ever given the benefit of the doubt especially when considering FANG. In fact, I have felt even more scrutinized. However, I was talking to a guy the other day (from another team - we don’t even know each other ), and he casually remarks how it must have been easy for me to get in because I am a woman, and I swear it took everything I had in me to not punch him - all those sleepless nights, the preparation, the work pressure, the times I wanted to give up but yet persisted and at the end of it - this is really what people think ?
The idea that diversity hires is a thing is such a fucking lol. It’s a lie the majority class uses to be able to reject bad candidates while maintaining the social connection. It’s way easier to tell a candidate “sorry dude it was close but HR made us hire the girl” than admit “we didn’t make you an offer because you‘re mediocre/bad.”
How do you know if someone is bad? I’m a terrible at interviews but one boss at Google has said I’m the most productive engineer he’s ever worked with. What you experience during interviews is not what the person is. There are other qualities and thinking that helps build up a great company. If you keep asking about the stuff you’re good at but maybe not what others are good at. And then use it as a golden standard of what makes a good engineer- what does that mean? You’re excluding potential great engineers. I mean look at Google vs Amazon. The 2 companies have different hiring standards. Some don’t qualify for one company or the other. Does it mean they’re bad? It’s all relative. People at amazon were rejected all the time at google. And look where they are. Now amazon is rejecting google engineers
Maybe diversity biased hiring is true and explains why there are tons of Chinese and Indian women working as managers or directors in the valley in spite of not been good for anything
Hate much? How do you know they aren't good or deserving?
Somebody got triggered
Diversity hires never think they're diversity hires, even when the evidence is right in front of them....
@New VTx400 - I am an engineer - and while we are introducing ourselves, would you mind telling us your nationality as well? It doesn’t seem like you are a native speaker from what you have written?
You are an engineer and not able to reply to a message? Read yourself and you will see. Shame!
I did read it and you haven’t mentioned your nationality anywhere. Why don’t you enlighten me since you are obviously smarter because of your gender ?
Nothing more privaledged than reacting with indignation when it's pointed out And doth protests too much. A good indication of being knawed at with pangs of guilt and a nagging that there is an element of truth to the comment.
You tell me if it's a thing? Senior leadership at almost any big tech companies have their bonus numbers tied to diversity hiring... Generally humans tend to do things good or bad if reward is good. I'm a guy who has a very smart wife.. Our strategy is make D+I work for us.. Once we've accepted it's a thing, we optimize for her prospects... Sorry you feel bad but I'd say make the most of it and team up with husband. It works best that way
Well if it worked for you guys, then I am glad and probably there must be some truth to it? How much percentage would you attribute to D+I and how much to the fact that you were prepared (or feeling confident that D&I is also working in your favor ?) - Asking this because I wonder if there is placebo effect in place as well (genuinely curious and don’t mean it in any other way )
I wouldn’t say this type of rewards to the LT is making a difference. I have seen some leaders not give a s** and blatantly not work on increasing diversity, much less keeping the few diverse people they have.
No. I have, however, followed diverse slate approach and benefited from finding and hiring a stronger candidate I wouldn't have found without that requirement.
What a wonderful, beautiful answer!!! We need more people like you in this world!
Was the guy who said that your husband? Man, that must hurt deep.
People can continue making whatever assumptions about how you/we got to where we are. Nothing changes the truth that you worked hard and probably harder to earn the place you are in. No matter what people say, your hard work is always going to prevail. In the words of Beyonce “You know you that b** when you cause all this conversation Always stay gracious, best revenge is your paper” 💪
This is what I needed to read - thank you so much !
I’m a girl too. Don’t let other people’s thoughts affect how you feel about yourself. It’s trivial in the grand scheme of things. Let it go. It’s irrelevant what other people are thinking and I usually make it not my business.
This is a good suggestion - I am usually very calm but that kind of comment triggers me - I would have been perhaps ok with it if it was actually true! 🙁 which is why I am trying to see if anybody actually has hired a diversity hire they did not think was deserving. Do companies actually push people to hire the minorities or are they actually saying “Don’t have unconscious bias against them - judge them as if they were a white guy.” I am hoping it’s the latter - because if it is the Former then I would be mad that I didn’t have it easy 😂
Yeah it’s rough and every one of us has triggers. If you let that bother you over time then your anger would just build up. It will blow up over time. Try not to let it bother you or reduce those negative emotions - do it for yourself not for other people.