Quitting Amazon
[update 2] I have decided to not be bothered by this and move on, thanks for the help. [update] I know most of you may suggest "Don't bother" is the safest option without consequence. But I will definitely have to carry this with me, I dont know how long, the feeling that I was powerless about this situation. This could affect me psychologically down the line. I dont want to feel powerless about mismanagement. I want to send a feedback email to skip manager with what I really feel so others in the team may not have to go through the same. Feedback email may have some really harsh feedback. Sample excerpts from email: ========================== #manager Toxic, lousy, eroded my trust, good at maneuvering politics, being manipulative, and creating a toxic workplace managed to bully me on my way out #coworker absolutely the worst person I have ever worked with; he is constantly negative, micromanaging and nagging, unwilling to do the work or pick up any work, shoots down ideas without even trying does not contribute anything to the team except reading news all-day great armchair expert I wish the company would get shit together. ========================== #amazon #quit TC: 425K [will be soon]
If you have a good rapport with the skip manager, schedule a call with him/her and convey this in nicer words. This shows you care about the org and other people. Follow that by written email so it’s documented.
I am against this advice ! Personally being face to face with a person/system - who subtly/rigorously supports wrongdoing/toxicity will only trigger your emotions and push you off the cliff . Don’t do the in-person talk. They aren’t worth that much , they never will be able to process your feedback the right way . Besides there’s no point in proving/demonstrating your care for the org and others. If caring for others and empathy was ever a priority- it wouldn’t be the toxic place that it is.
If you're going to do it, write like an Amazonian. Don't use adjectives, use specific examples and results. Otherwise, it'll just sound whiny.
True that. Needs to be professional and not Whiny
I am not the manager for them, I can only talk about my statistics and my experience. I am not going to write a full doc about this. It is the skip level responsibility to track the facts and metrics. I am not going to do their job for them. You are basically telling me that somehow it is my responsibility to make the case for this. I dont have time for that.
Don't do anything in writing, schedule a 1:1 with your skip, have something prepared to say
Curious why not send something in writing after a 1x1 as a follow up? (Not trolling, but curious)
Because it can be used against you to show that you're disgruntled. If the goal is to shit on some people before you leave, then doing it verbally will get the point across. Leaving a paper trail can make you look bad and serves no purpose.
It won't work. With any company really, I've seen this at my last job. Nobody cares about the guy who's leaving because they think he's just sour
Your email is all subjective with no real evidence. How is he toxic? Do you have specific examples to back it up? You send this email, you will be screwed.
I am scared that I will be screwed. That is not the full email, those are some of the word choices I have in the email. The fact is this is how I feel. If the skip level cares enough, then he can get into facts and figure out things by himself.
That’s not how it works. It’s not a relationship with your gf where you just say how you feel and she takes it as is. This is work. How you perceived someone has no value. Show evidence or gtfo. It’s not your skips responsibility to investigate. You accused someone, you need to bring proof. And FYI, the tech world is small, smaller than you think. You will get hit for this even if you never return at amazon.
Make a PowerPoint and sent it out in an email blast to your wider org on your last day.
Go the shooting range to fire shots not the office
take a deep breath and look forward to the next role. Forget and drop the baggage not worth it
Do you really expect them to change based on your one email? I mean you couldn’t drive them to change while you were there, how can your one email make any difference? Also, do you really care about others? Isn’t it more about your ego? Suppress that urge for now, it’s not worth it.
I won't comeback if things are same.
Ok...but if they change, you can’t