Tech IndustryMar 20, 2019
AppleLsPq67

Quitting a job you just started

5 yoe Just started my first week at apple and I’m immediately getting a regretful feeling that I made the wrong choice. Prior to this I was at Facebook and a startup, so the culture shift is really killing me. This combined with the commute from Oakland is making me contemplate leaving. It’s not that I didn’t anticipate apples culture before joining, I just didn’t realize I’d be this miserable with it. We are in a remote building, everyone on my floor are way older w/ families, and there aren’t any communal places to eat lunch, so I eat at my cubicle. I’m so used to such an open culture, asking for whatever I want for my desktop setup, and just being social in general. I knew the commute would be long, but I didn’t anticipate wasting 3 hours of my day in my car and filling up gas every 2-3 days. Is it bad to consider leaving? I acknowledge that I should have thought more of this through in the first place?

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Oracle xdokl Mar 20, 2019

At will employment. Quit

Tesla 🦖🦕 Mar 20, 2019

Do what makes you happy as long as you have a back up plan bro. Fuck apple. (Written on an iPhone XS)

Microsoft TcqR08 Mar 20, 2019

Isn’t it too early to judge? I would say give it few months time. It wouldn’t look good on your profile.

Homeaway ppMg64 Mar 20, 2019

I feel it will be neutral. For one odd job. However, if this a pattern with OP, then it will definitely make a difference.

Twitch RbOv54 Mar 20, 2019

Well... It's even worse if you stayed a few months and then underperformed. Like how are you going to explain either shitty references or a gap in your resume? At least now, you just explain that you went on extended vacation and that you didn't actually work at Apple

Homeaway ppMg64 Mar 20, 2019

You have something lined up already? If not, maybe consider have another offer in hand before you have this conversation. Also, talk to your manager. Maybe they can transfer you to a different team? Also elaborate with your older people comment? Have you tried to talking to them? Do they not talk to you or hang out in office?

Apple LsPq67 OP Mar 20, 2019

I don’t have something lined up yet, but if I’m interviewing, should I start having the conversations that the culture might not be a fit for me. As far as the coworkers, by older I guess I just meant like, they aren’t the crowd I can relate with, most work an honest 9-5 go home to their kids, choose to eat lunch at their desks... the people who do eat together are the offshore people coming from India , so hard to mesh with them since they are already in their own clique

Homeaway ppMg64 Mar 20, 2019

I hear you! I had a similar setup in MSFT and I stuck around for 10 months before just giving up and leaving. The same issue with folks just eating at their desk, no one used to hang out other than just for work related stuff. To add to it, everyone had their own offices so no one even talked. Coming from Amazon, and being used to the hustle bustle of an open seating, I used to feel claustrophobic. So much so, that I kept my office door open just to hear people walk by. I finally lined up a role in Netflix. Then went and told my boss I was leaving. She was super concerned. Said that I should not leave and that whether the comp or work was a problem. I said neither, I just could not stand the isolated office culture and the general boring-as-fuck work environment. Moved to Netflix and was super happy after. Dunno how I managed to spend even 10 months there!!!

SAP ghtuhd Mar 20, 2019

How about shifting closer to your place of work?

Apple LsPq67 OP Mar 20, 2019

With all due respect, I hate San Jose! I love the city of Oakland and my rent control is too hard to pass up

Twitch RbOv54 Mar 20, 2019

But but but... San Jose has amazing Asian food...

Cisco SLmG30 Mar 20, 2019

Culture adjustments take a little bit of time. I would definitely recommend giving it a few months. I struggled a lot with it during my recent move and also considered leaving. Once I got over the hump, I started feeling a lot better about it. There are definitely some things I still miss, but I'm ultimately glad I stuck it out.

Cisco SLmG30 Mar 20, 2019

That being said, breaking with them earlier rather than later will reflect better should you ever want to pursue an an opportunity at Apple again, though they might just blacklist you regardless.

Unity 🐥 bok Mar 20, 2019

You can say there wasn’t a fit in culture and life’s too short to work somewhere you be unhappy at

Uber kettle Mar 20, 2019

Yes you should start interviewing. Just say the commute is killing you and leave it at that. If you live in Oakland, why not work in SF? The biggest red flag for a hiring manager will be your judgment -- why didn't you anticipate the problem. So as long as you have an answer you'll be fine

Uber qsdtn Mar 20, 2019

Wanna give Uber a shot? We don’t have problems you described :)

Apple LsPq67 OP Mar 20, 2019

My previous job was in SF, I was at flexport for about a year and left for a significantly higher paying opportunity, but definitely realizing I had it good

Uber qsdtn Mar 20, 2019

Flexport is a 🚀

PayPal da anomaly Mar 20, 2019

Life is too short to waste it in a place that saps your soul