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Jun 15, 2021 52 Comments

I’m an M2 at Facebook and I need to leave. I’m burnt out and unhappy with the organization I am part of. I was never that happy with Facebook philosophically. I’ve been looking at roles at Apple and Google and I’m wondering if they are likely to be competitive.

In both cases three are “Senior Manager” roles, level 7 at Google and I don’t know what at Apple. This year Facebook will pay me north of 1M but this isn’t sustainable (cliff), it will fall down to around 800k next year.

Im curious whether I can expect competitive or ideally better comp in the long run and whether there are any work environment or cultural issues I should be wary of.

TC: 1M

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  • Apple
    mrLoaf

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    mrLoaf
    What makes you unhappy currently?
    Jun 15, 2021 15
    • Facebook
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      OP
      I made it clear what level I am now and asked if this would be competitive and they felt it would be, but I did not go into a specific comp expectation. I guess I’ll see where that part of the process ends up. The role is titled as “Senior Manager” and it’s my expectation that this is probably Apple’s M3.
      Jun 16, 2021
    • Apple
      hggksyuwa

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      hggksyuwa
      I would say if you want save some time be specific with your expectations. Don’t think that they would do anything to hire you once you pass the loop as they have tons of applicants and pipeline is mostly overflowing.
      Jun 16, 2021
  • Google / Eng
    6Feet6Inch

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    6Feet6Inch
    Aww, that sucks, you must get out soon, surviving on just 800k would be the worst thing a man can go through.

    Jk, I know cliff is not the reason you’re quitting, it’s other things that you mentioned.
    Jun 15, 2021 0
  • G may not pay you 1M+ but they'll pay very well and you won't feel this miserable. You can't necessarily have both a clean conscience and the ultra high comp. FB is paying for your sanity and you're conflicted over selling it.

    Leave FB.
    Jun 15, 2021 0
  • I was senior manager at G, just joined FB recently. For me, FB has more interesting projects and much easier to move. Note that G can only pay 600k for L7, is that something you are comfortable with? For sure there is no pip pressure at G at all.
    Jun 15, 2021 8
  • Apple / Mgmt
    Aloominium

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    Aloominium
    You could aim for an M3 role or even D1 at Apple
    Jun 15, 2021 3
    • Apple / Eng
      hd7hs7hdbn

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      hd7hs7hdbn
      Many people like me, staying at Apple because we just like the attention to details and customer experience first mentality
      Jun 15, 2021
    • Apple
      RXtA67

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      RXtA67
      Apple is very relationship oriented. And at higher levels it’s hard to move around too as the opportunities are less for high level managers.

      Stress depends on the org. If you want any referrals ping me.
      Jun 15, 2021