People are already enrolling in graduate degrees they don't need or want just to tick a box on an immigration form and get themselves classified EB1 or EB2. These are people who have no interest in becoming researchers and are primarily only interested in an immigration benefit. They wind up in jobs that don't really need the credential they obtained, such as software development engineer. This is harmful to the education system, to the economy, and really to people's lives. It takes spots in graduate programs away from people who actually wanted to do research, it results in a loss of productivity as people who could be working stay in school they don't need, and it delays people's careers by making them spend years getting degrees they don't otherwise need. This is already happening under the existing immigration system but it's going to get MUCH worse if the Raise act is passed and the US starts limiting greencards to people with advanced degrees due to "points inflation". Suddenly everyone who wants to immigrate will spend years getting these extra credentials. This will clog up graduate programs without providing any net benefit to research. Worse, it will result in lower quality immigration by mixing up merit with credentials. A master's doesn't make you a better software engineer, particularly if you got it from a second rate college. We will end up getting more second rate immigrants who were desperate enough to waste years chasing immigration points, and fewer solid, highly meritorious engineers with great skills learned through experience at top companies. Mediocre people from poor countries will be more willing to spend years collecting points towards a greencard than successful and capable people from rich countries, who will prefer to get a job with their bachelor's degree in CS and not see the need to waste years collecting immigration points. The Raise Act purports to measure merit with its point system, but it does not. It just creates yet another game that will be abused by low quality immigrants from countries with high rates of fraud.
Liberals are funny they can’t even come to an agreement on the grounds on which to oppose a bill. First, they opposed the raise act as racist saying that it is designed to only attract/encourage Caucasian white immigrants. Now they oppose it because it is giving an unfair advantage to folks from poor third world country. Next - they’ll oppose it because the raise act attracts illegal immigration.
I see you have no actual argument. You could not dispute a single thing I said.
There isn’t a thing to dispute. You just want privilege while I want merit. You are entitled to your views and I am to mine. For you discriminating ppl on the basis of their national origin is merit. For me giving everyone the same opportunity irrespective of their country of origin (as long as they meet the same bar) is merit. And yes I still feel liberals are funny because tomorrow you are going to bring up another reason to oppose the bill just for the sake of it. FWIW every liberal candidate over the last decade including nobama and crooked had endorsed high skill immigration gc undispitedly during the campaign. They just forget about it once the vote back has been duped.
Who are nobama and crooked?
Xaw failed to answer any of the following: 1. Credentials aren't the same as merit 2. Particularly from 2nd rate colleges 3. It creates a bad incentive 4. It will harm colleges 5. It will harm truly meritorious people 6. It will impact careers 7. It will result in lower quality immigrants You got nothing. You yap a lot but your brain is empty. You can't make a rational argument to save your life all you got is brainless whataboutism.
And its ppl like Yety who’ve turned several centrist and even slightly left leaning individuals to the other side of the divide with their own sense of entitlement. No wonder the liberal base is shrinking and very soon the only group outside of the lgbt lobby voting for them will be the illegal immigrants. But alas the latter can’t really vote.
You don't like reality. Reality is that the Raise Act will cause terrible problems. You don't care that it will cause problems because you only care about yourself. There are better ways to solve the backlog problem than to declare open season for people who want to game the system. My point, which you haven't even tried to dispute, is that the Raise Act does NOT actually create a merit system. Lots of meritorious people do not have master's degrees and yet are much better software engineers than people who do. The Raise Act says a guy with an engineering degree from MIT who works at Google is less meritorious than a guy with a PhD from some mail order degree mill who works for some third tier consulting firm. We all know the MIT guy is more meritorious. This isn't about race or skin color, there are super qualified Indians with undergraduate degrees, and stuffed shirts with PhD's from Britain. But overall it's India that has the economic and social problems that cause a huge wave of people to do whatever they can to immigrate to the US, swamping the system. We want the best of them to come, but the Raise Act won't accomplish it.
Just so you know, merely having a graduate degree does not automagically qualify one for EB2 or EB1; the position has to explicitly require an advanced degree. For instance a guy with a master's degree can join as an entry level engineer, but will not be eligible for EB1/2 as the job description for an entry level position doesn't usually mention a requirement of a grad degree or 5 yrs of experience. Now the company can always edit the JD to suit the person's qualifications but then there's a high chance of additional scrutiny as to why a position that was listed during the initial hiring phase without the need of a grad degree or 5 YOE suddenly needs these things at the time of GC filing.
Sure, and even with that we are seeing people getting degrees just for immigration purposes. If Raise Act makes an advanced degrees effectively the only way to get in then our universities will be turned into an obstacle course for prospective immigrants to the detriment of everyone.
@yety - yep, agreed. I just wanted to point out that merely having a grad degree is in no way sufficient for an EB1/2 classification. For an EB1 it's not even sufficient to have a PhD - you'll need ~100+ citations for your work and that's a bit difficult unless you've published in a top journal; this sort of filter actually works and hopefully there'll be something similar applied to grad schools as well.
leetcode hard for GC or GTFO.
Clearly you didn’t.
😂😂😂😂 @SkankHnt42 I literally burst out laughing to your comment after reading such an intense post!