RTO is BS!!

Intel
r233

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r233
Apr 14 76 Comments

So now we have had rto/hybrid for 3 weeks now and i think it is completely BS!

Productivity:
- I am way less productive in office, because of background noise, someone stopping by at the cube, bathroom breaks take much longer, going to cafe for food/coffee.

Health:
- spending more time in commute+being in office so i can't prepare food at home, exercise when i want and go back to work or spend time with family and friends outside of work.
I have way less energy after coming back home to exercise and then prepare food.

WLB:
While we got way more work, wfh because we were getting more done. I feel it still left me with lot of time to do other things.
Unpopular opinion: commute,dressing up time, gas etc. needs to be compensated on top of full time pay.

So i feel that companies dont care about workers and are calling us back because managers feel less important when they dont see everyone present in their useless team meetings and rich people thinking real estate prices around offices would drop if rto isn't done.

#returntooffice #hybrid

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  • New
    EOcW23

    New

    EOcW23
    You want to be compensated for returning to the office?

    How about your ALREADY being compensated to do the job you were hired to do.

    WFH was always going to be a temporary thing for most companies. Some decided to go that way, sure but others were always intending for people to return to office.

    It’s a bit disingenuous to have taken a job, knowing that you’ll have to return to office and now start complaining about the fact.

    If you think you can find a wfh job with another company than do so, but complaint about the job you agreed to do for the money you agreed on is ridiculous.
    Apr 14 12
    • Intel
      ni4040

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      ni4040
      one upset manager here, lol.
      Apr 14
    • New
      hungry 🥜🥜🥜

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      hungry 🥜🥜🥜
      If your company is hiring people who can’t produce quality work on time due to being remote that means your hiring process is crap and needs to be updated.
      Apr 15
  • Question: if wfh is that effective, what is the purpose of work Visa (H/L)? Can we go ahead and cancel all of them and ask them to work from their respective country “remotely”?

    Only either of it should be true right? WFH is efficient or we need foreign work force to come USA for work.?
    Apr 14 13
    • Meta
      hwhfb

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      hwhfb
      MaxLinear, we all got your point but you're actually just wrong. Wfh IS effective. Let people work from wherever. Do you have any actual data to back up your point or is it all anecdotal bullshit?
      Apr 14
    • Zoom
      mHNc70

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      mHNc70
      I thought we’d moved way past any debate whether wfh is effective - it’s literally been proven that companies did fine when forced to wfh and obviously some have intentionally remained so, and still in business.. so to say it’s not effective sounds kind of like denying what you’re seeing right in front of you. It may not be your preference for sure, but that’s your opinion and nothing to do with absolute truths.
      Apr 16
  • Meta
    public2

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    public2
    Rto is awesome and better for productivity and health but if you aren't loving it why not go remote?
    Apr 14 11
    • Apple
      DyGI78

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      DyGI78
      @Tzfw47 - Not every employee of these companies is a SWE making $200K TC. A lot of people are stuck living more than ~30 minutes from the office due to finances. There are also numerous contractors who might live 30 minutes away from this year's job and more than 30 minutes from next year's job.
      6d
    • Google
      Tzfw47

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      Tzfw47
      I don’t entirely disagree however, you don’t need 200k tc and people vastly underestimate the amount of money they spend driving and of course not accounting for their own time spent in the car.

      Assuming ~.5c per mile (NOT just gas like most people do)
      Ie: one way 30 min 10 mile commute -> 1 hour and $10 wasted.

      One way 1 hour and 20 mile commute -> 2 hours and $20 wasted per day. Even $10 and an hour savings each day would go to $100 and 10 hours a month saved at 10 days in office, double that for 20 days.

      Realistically people moving to ~ Pleasanton are driving over 60 miles round-trip to for example Mountain View which is probably about $30 a day, $300-$600 per month in commute costs
      6d
  • New
    ravibeast

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    ravibeast
    I hate to be that guy, but how do we know that WFH is not a trap? It seems very suspicious to me because WFH seems like it would ultimately make it very easy to replace U.S. workers with foreign workers while being able to bypass the U.S. immigration system. Time zones, technology theft, internet issues, tax implications, etc seem like small risks and barriers relative to hiring immigrants.
    Apr 15 16
  • Tesla
    xcmg85

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    xcmg85
    I'm going to miss hearing from the introverts on calls, it's been wonderful engagement over the past 2 years from individuals that never spoke up.

    In office, I don't know if its the pressure of having eyes physically on them or maybe they're boxed out of being able to talk by extroverts jumping in instantly to respond to everything in meeting room but for whatever reason they're much more reclusive. It'll be a genuine regression for that reason alone imo.
    Apr 14 3