Currently interviewing for a cool team within Apple but already signed an offer for core services in MS. I’ve heard not great things about that team but I don’t want to burn bridges at a company such as microsoft. On the other hand, I’m a new grad and the team at Apple is a rotation program focusing on machine learning and ai which I think I would learn more in. I’ve also heard switching teams at Microsoft isn’t too hard so maybe after my first promo I could get on Azure and that would be a better place to learn? Not too concerned about the money, I have no idea what Apple pays but I’m happy with the Microsoft offer I got.
Core services engineering is the new name for MSIT. Horrible reputation and org.
Would it be very hard to switch out of?
Yes internally it has a bad rap. Most managers shun employees from msit
If the Apple team focus on ML and AI I would go with it.. hold on MS offer till you clear Apple interviews
Would you mind sharing your msft offer? Curious what new grads are getting these days
108, 30k signing (negotiated from 15), 75k stock over 3.5
Nice!
Msft is bad. Core services is the bad part of msft. Don’t worry about burning bridges. At msft, one hand doesn’t know what the other is doing.... they won’t remember.
@yMcg47 you are saying its ok to burn down the bridges. I am just curious to know this since I have accepted an offer from Microsoft. However I have thoughts about another one which is better interms of pay and work culture and internal team transfers. just worries since I have already accepted offer from Microsoft. Please advise.
go to apple
Is it ok to renege a signed offer ?
Better to bail before you start than make a mistake by joining. Simply inform MS that due to personal reasons you won’t be joining them. It happens and shouldn’t black list you.
@BakBown, just curious how are you so sure about "wont blacklist" part ?
Why does core service has such a bad rep? What does it do exactly
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