I just got an initial verbal offer from Riot. They told me that they need some extra time to finalize the offer. Anything I should watch out? One thing to flag is that they mentioned that given I came from non gaming background, they will offer me an associate development manager role instead of product leadership role I thought I was interviewing for.
We have a habit of putting over qualified people into associate roles and having them rage quit after 6 months because the scope sucks. If you are qualified for a leadership position but aren't being given one then I would decline the offer. I made the mistake of accepting in a similar situation and it took me 3 years to get back up to the TC and responsibility set I had at my previous role despite being more qualified than my manager.
Honestly at this point I would not recommend joining Riot. The company is a mess and has very weak leadership. There has been a huge talent leak in product leadership recently and some of the people who have been promoted to fill the gaps are the least qualified management I have ever had the misfortune to work with.
This. Clarify if you're a development manager or delivery manager - are you managing engineers or are they making you own the delivery of a thing that you can't control? I recommend not joining riot unless you drop acid and are okay with middle management that are incoherent due to heavy drug use. This was not a joke.
If you are at google and not an intern, Probably best to just walk unless your dream is working on league.
Production at Riot is awesome in some places but not all. If this is on League you will be shipping and it could be awesome.
I was EP at a casino gaming company and a recruiter for the Modern Warfare team thought I was a great fit for the Associate Producer role, despite 25 years experience in more senior roles. There is a certain snobbery that successful game studios get that makes them think people will take a pay cut and 2 steps down just to work on their team.
Decline. Development Managers are a hot mess. 75% of them can barely handle the project management because they're too busy ideating about work systems. Associate DMs are not even salaried last I checked. Riot has some of the best people I've worked with in my career in art, design, engineering, but production and in particular the DM side of it needs a lot of work.
@the riot employees saying bad things about riot. why do you all work at riot? i thought the tc was so low that it is only worth it if you REALLY love the company.
Many have left. Quite a few other people I know are waiting for the bonus payout for this year.
Salary is actually lower than most companies. The above is only true for engineering.
OP can you please share your Riot offer :)
Watch out for a low ball offer.
Dude, run.
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