Tech IndustrySep 24, 2019
Rokucruella

S386 vs diversity hire (or college admissions)

Only interested in hearing from people who support diversity hire and yet support S386 (i.e. support diversity hire but let indians get GC per merit) or vice-versa (i.e. hate diversity hire, but want diverse people to get GC) People who support diversity in both situations or hate privileging it in either situation, your arguments have been heard, theres nothing new to add here.

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Uber twisties Sep 24, 2019

Oh god... not another stupid thread about this

Roku cruella OP Sep 24, 2019

God won't be able to help with it.

Amazon Dr. Jones Sep 24, 2019

You are trying to relate two different issues here. Diversity hires for American citizens and immigration are two different things. Citizens have rights, you don’t. Go back to where you came from.

Cisco tcOrGtfo🤫 Sep 24, 2019

American Suprimist spotted

Roku cruella OP Sep 24, 2019

I am not talking legally. Just asking purely on logical basis how someone squares supporting diversity in one but curbing it in another or vice versa

Google hoopla.xyz Sep 24, 2019

You would support s386 if you are sincere about diversity. When you have a system that has two classes of workers by labor mobility, the system will choose the one with poorer mobility. This will cause over representation of the class with poorer mobility and depress wages for all. The solution to this isn't adding caps, but removing them. Adding country caps destroys diversity, although it sounds counter intuitive. These are not made up, but well understood labor dynamics. If you are someone who is sincere about maintaining diversity, you will support s386, not oppose it. Also note that caps come from family GC, where the majority of recepients never have set their foot into the country before receiving their GC. In employment Visa, the recipients are already in the labor market participating. So leaving a backlog in the name of diversity hurts every participant in the labor market and hurts diversity.

Roku cruella OP Sep 24, 2019

I am not and can not support it or otherwise. In addition to that I have conflict of interest.

Google hoopla.xyz Sep 24, 2019

The options you have makes a premise that if you support s386 'yet' support diversity. That premise is actually wrong. It should be I support s386 and obviously I support diversity.

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justgo Sep 25, 2019

U.S. government should cap H-1B visas issued each year to Indians at between 20 percent and 30 percent of the annual quota. There is no current country-specific limit on the 85,000 H-1B work visas granted each year, and an estimated 70% go to Indians. Train US workers.

Google hoopla.xyz Sep 25, 2019

New doesn't understand laws - it's impossible to make a law that puts caps on h1 survive courts. That's because it goes against EEO laws. Besides, realities in the Hill dictates companies will lobby hard against the bill that you can never ever be able to introduce it, forget about trying to pass it. Keep suggesting roads that go-to nowhere.