Is it true that those who do more than they are paid for will soon be paid for more than they do?

Aug 21, 2020 18 Comments

E.g. - software engineer that takes on more stories and defects per sprint than expected
- tech lead that leads two teams when they are just paid to lead one
- product manager that manages two teams when they are just paid to manage one
- engineering manager that does more than what is expected
- project manager that does more than what is expected
- etc.

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  • Google
    yAKt67

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    yAKt67
    Assuming your org is not toxic
    Aug 21, 2020 1
    • What percent of orgs are toxic though? I would say most orgs probably don’t even have visibility into the hard work someone is doing or don’t care and see it as exploitation.

      New guy does the most for the lowest pay —> slowly moves up —> gets paid more but then laid off —> new guy hired to do same job for less pay —> cycle continues.
      Aug 21, 2020
  • Cisco
    PsgBayern

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    PsgBayern
    Nope. It's BS.

    At any point in your life, you work for others for what you're being paid for. The pay is in relation to that.
    Aug 21, 2020 2
    • New
      Blackburne

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      Blackburne
      False, if you want to be promoted, you have to show that you're capable of doing the job of your boss. This may not require drastic additions to work but doing little things that demonstrates capability is important.
      Aug 21, 2020
    • Cisco
      PsgBayern

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      PsgBayern
      False, people are already paid lower for the work they put in. Employers are not dumb to pay you worth your value. If you just do what you are paid for, you are anyways meeting expectations. Most if not all perform below expectations IRL
      Aug 22, 2020
  • Apple
    Yeppitsme

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    Yeppitsme
    This is true
    Aug 21, 2020 2
    • I feel like the quote only applies to entrepreneurs that start their own company. Every minute they put in pays off for themselves like planting seeds that give a tree that provides them shade later.

      Whereas an employee will just be seen as someone to exploit and take advantage of because they do more than they’re told to do.
      Aug 21, 2020
    • Apple
      TimsCoocky

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      TimsCoocky
      OP you get promoted to a job once you are already doing it. No one gets a promotion that he has not proven already
      Aug 21, 2020
  • Amazon / Eng
    KHCr70

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    KHCr70
    In general yea. But you are looking at it the wrong way. Think of it more like this:
    - People that do more than they are paid tend to be the people that will get promoted before people that only do what they are paid.
    Just doing more work doesnt guarantee you a raise, but only doing what you are expected to do greatly decreases your chances for one
    Aug 21, 2020 0
  • VMware
    Mr.Dabada

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    Mr.Dabada
    I guess if it takes 10000 hours to become a subject expert, you could get that in 100 weeks with 100 weekly hours, or 250 weeks with 40 weekly hours.

    I’m not siding with either side, you pick your speed
    Aug 21, 2020 3
    • VMware
      Mr.Dabada

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      Mr.Dabada
      Makes sense, but what if 2 equally smart and efficient people work on the same thing? As in, there is no difference in learning and grasping. Sure, 40 hours person is 100% efficient, and 100 hours person is 80% efficient.
      Aug 21, 2020
    • Siemens
      xgDB68

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      xgDB68
      Yep came to my mind and was lazy to write that. In that case yes it will make a difference. Also I believe people at young age should spend more time learning as the learning process slows down when you grow old. The more time you spend now will help you in future
      Aug 21, 2020