Google levels definition staff onwards

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ccpux

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ccpux
May 17, 2020 14 Comments

- What is the minimum scope of work at this level?
- Are you requirement to informally lead a group of people (<5) at this level?

- What kind of formal authority does it offer you (if any) to increase your influence.

- What is the topmost engineers level for a project like Spanner? i presume there is more than senior staff for such a project.

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  • Amazon
    fWiX20

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    fWiX20
    If you have not led high impact projects to success over multiple years with teams of 10+ you have 0 chance at L6 (staff)

    L7 usually leads 50-80 engineers and covers multiple PAs

    L8 you need to be a godlike SME or have incredible breadth, driving multiple efforts/products each with many stakeholders. Heavy history of highly xfn work partnering with many business verticals.

    I have no distinguished/fellows (l9/l10) in my network so I'm not sure what the impact/scope looks like from there
    May 17, 2020 4
    • Amazon
      t4gog

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      t4gog
      I have heard that L7 EM at Google leads around 20 to 25 engineers on average.. is my info incorrect?
      May 17, 2020
    • Amazon
      fWiX20

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      fWiX20
      Level is more than just # of engineers but that seems possible if your impact is high and internal promo so lower L7. External hires are held to a much higher bar and you will probably not get M2 with 20-25 engineers under you. I know somf CTOs/VPs with previously 100+ engineers get hired into M2 sometimes M1
      May 17, 2020
  • Google / Eng
    Tegami

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    Amazon
    Tegami
    Spanner right now: 1 L9, a couple of L8s, a handful of L7s, a lot of L6s (like 20-ish)
    May 17, 2020 1
  • Apple
    ccpux

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    ccpux
    OP
    If L7 is multiple PA, is L6 one PA?

    Every GCP product is one product area? Does it mean L6 engineer oversees one complete GCP product?

    Seems unlikely for a product like BugQuery or FileStore or Spanner IMO
    May 17, 2020 3
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  • Google
    hmm๐Ÿค”๐Ÿคจ๐Ÿคฎ

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    hmm๐Ÿค”๐Ÿคจ๐Ÿคฎ
    You donโ€™t need direct reports at L6 if you are really good at your ladder. You just need to lead efforts that span across the PA.
    May 17, 2020 0