Will Amazon ever run out of employees? We know theyre getting there and theyve burned through markets. seems like everyone i know in seattle has, does or will work for Amazon. we know they recruite in weird places like Uzbekistan where their shitty reputation doesnt weigh heavily enough against the chance at a visa out of a dictator run country. I worked there a few years and stay in touch with about 15-20 old coworkers. many of these people have been fired by Amazon, put on a PIP (oddly, two passed their PIP and are still there). Will there ever be a point where Amazon runs out of potential employees or will the supply always last?
No. There are new employees graduating every year.
Just curious, are only young people left at Amazon?
Amazon SDEs do seem to skew much younger than other places I've worked.
We all know that, generally speaking, working for Amazon isn’t as fun as working for Google or Microsoft. But is Amazon really that bad? Like if the other FANG didn’t exist then wouldn’t Amazon be one of our top picks?
I can’t judge because I haven’t worked at any of the other FAANGs. I can say that in a non dev role, the workload was 2x the size if my current workload, stress and urgency is much higher, and pay for regular business functions is market rate.
Culture isn’t much different at FB or Netflix. Still they are dream companies.
Its not really *that* bad. All bad environments/WLB can be had at any company. Its just the culture is a bit more cut-throat and less forgiving than other big tech companies, and the biggest voice are the new grads unknowingly getting the short end of the stick with Amazon's mass hire/mass fire (shortlist/shorcut interviews and hiring for entry level L4 etc), thrown out to the wolves, may the best man win culture. Most new grads do not and have not developed the skills to do well in that environment, so we hear about how *bad* it is from the biggest churn group of employees, naturally. Amazon doesnt want to hold your hand, but unfortunately new grads/junior levels need that more often than not. I dont blame them, its not easy when you have zero work experience and the first job is so cut-throat. It's also ignorant people joining without fully understanding the role. For example in AWS as a Cloud Support Engineer. People complain it was tech support for AWS customers and there was on call rotation and blamed Amazon for lack of transparency due to WLB or job description. What the hell did you expect? It says SUPPORT in the title, not to mention a full job description. Its a 24x7x365 job. These types of things get heard the loudest. And these types of roles are easily farmed out to overseas support engineers due to coverage, hence the recruiting from odd countries. They dont get the management oversight and the social aspect or nurturing they deserve unfortunately. However it seems to be less common with external hires with experience at L5/6+ and the ones who have stuck around because they tend to thrive in that culture and have developed some soft skills to adapt and/or work within that type of culture. Unless you just suck and terrible to work with, which is hoping to be mitigated by the lengthy behavioral/cultural aspect of the interview loop.
This is correct and my feeling Also the hiring bar for 5/6 is much much higher ... The percentage of people passing l4 interviews and l6 are completely different numbers ... Sure lots of people can nail an l4 role - but anything above that is completely different And that said - Facebook in some area is just as cut throat and wlb in google at launch times for services / web products is just as bad
It’s very hit or miss depending on the org, your manager and your skip. If you have their support it’s a great experience. If not, you will have no shelter. Overall I really enjoy Amazon and my org. But you have to be able to deliver, drive your own success, and communicate effectively or you will get picked apart quickly.
Nope