CompensationOct 18, 2019
NewhjkO62

Software Engineers of High Frequency Trading firms, how was your comp progression like?

I always see high starting salaries for companies like Jane Street, citadel, Two sigma, HRT etc but never see how their salary changes each year. I would like to know your YOE, Salary and Bonus when your started working at the company, progression of your TC each year and also the best thing you like about your company. YOE: 0 TC: 0 (Student)

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Citadel BrutеForce Oct 18, 2019

You last a year or two and move on. That's your progression. Very few stay for longer. But next year bump is usually very good.

Walmart XsEg37 Oct 18, 2019

Is the job really that stressful or there are some other reasons for this?

Uber itsdara Oct 18, 2019

Burn and churn?

Airbnb not🌭 Oct 19, 2019

Second fiddle to traders and ehhh wlb

Google betETF Oct 19, 2019

TC: high at the beginning, gradually falls behind at entry lvl + 2 of tech companies. There is about 10% annual bump w/ no leveling bump. Wlb: no coaching level. Work about 45-55 hrs/week (highly depends on company)

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hjkO62 OP Oct 19, 2019

I seriously doubt this tbh, I always thought a 2-3 YOE person at a HFT earns much more than a same person at FAANG

Google betETF Oct 20, 2019

@hjkO62 2-3 YOE person doesn't match entry lvl+2. I was referring to 4-8 YOE person

Jane Street Capital sinsivt Oct 19, 2019

A lot of this stuff varies by firm. Elsewhere in this thread someone mentioned that Citadel devs often burn out in two years, whereas we only lose <5% of devs each year. As far as my comp progression, I joined with 3 yoe and have gotten 500k/575k/715k since then.

Jane Street Capital sinsivt Oct 19, 2019

Not sure what the bump was for exactly, but I guess my manager thought so.

Google turbocuck Oct 19, 2019

Are you a dev? Where were you before joining? Those numbers feel well into trading range I imagine. Seems odd that would be the case based on my limited understanding.

Two Sigma mgre Oct 20, 2019

200/250/350/450

Two Sigma peter9 Oct 20, 2019

Can’t speak for him but I started as a new grad and have had very similar growth in TC

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hjkO62 OP Oct 20, 2019

Will there be a cap on how much you can increase your salary or your salary increase by 50-100k almost every year?

Google onesigma Oct 22, 2019

Only very few trading firms pay well. Here was my previous tc at a quantitative asset management firm from new grad in manhattan: 130k, 150k, 170k... Not gonna mention its name, but if you search “quantitative asset management firms”, it’s somewhere on the first page of Search.

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lambda_n Oct 23, 2019

Well, quant trading firms are very different actually. I would rather not compare "prop" teams like Jane Street, Citadel Securities, XTX, ... with asset gathering operations like AQR. Definitely, a successful prop can pay orders of magnitude than a highly regulated asset gatherer. Also it depends on what extent the firm values technology. There are still firms that see tech as a cost center.

Google promosux Oct 23, 2019

Not all asset management firms pay that badly. Two sigma and citadel have asset management arms and they pay well. PDT partners is also another hedge fund that pays well.

Google onesigma Oct 22, 2019

We need numbers from CitSec devs. I’ve seen a few of you here ;p