Tech IndustryMay 6, 2021
RBCBasado

Square Lowball?

Just got an ML Engineering offer from Square for ($CAD) 190K TC in Toronto as an L5 Seems a little low to me, given that Amazon gave a verbal offer for ~220K as just an SDE 2 with no ML knowledge required Does Square just pay poorly in Canada? I see their SF ranges are all around USD 320K+ for the same level YOE: 4 #square #amazon

Microsoft hdh May 6, 2021

Is the Amazon offer also for TO?

RBC Basado OP May 6, 2021

These are for TO but I believe it's very similar to Vancouver

Coinbase y t May 6, 2021

Tell me about it lol, Toronto pay is straight fucking trash. Makes no sense

RBC Basado OP May 6, 2021

Bad weather, high cost of living, you'd think at least the TC would make up for it 🤣

Coinbase y t May 6, 2021

Lol I wish. Low pay, high rent, high taxes, shit currency, inflated consumer goods, shit weather, shit shutdowns. I love Canada

Intuit helpneeded May 6, 2021

So much greed 😕😱

Facebook koolp May 6, 2021

Amazon sde2 220k is top of the band btw

Asana gCtz17 May 6, 2021

Yeah square pay for Canada is pretty bad

Mailchimp fedcrime Sep 8, 2022

What about Asana?

Google nn. May 6, 2021

Square is a pass in Toronto if you have other offers. They’re just trying to get people for as low as possible. Don’t let them do it, especially not for ML.

RBC Basado OP May 6, 2021

Ah wow that's good to know. Just strange how they can outpay in the states but not here. I don't care too much about the pay but do wonder if this also means the talent will suck?

Google nn. May 6, 2021

I can’t speak about the talent in Square Toronto, but if the rational actors theory of economics holds, then I’m sure those who can pass Square’s interview would probably be elsewhere for better pay.

Amazon 4k time May 7, 2021

How much do you make at RBC? Just curious.

RBC Basado OP May 7, 2021

Right, I forgot the first rule of blind. TC around 170 but I'm not in regular RBC

Amazon 4k time May 7, 2021

Wow canadian companies pay that much? I heard the big 5 banks are super meager.

Salesforce teWY73 May 7, 2021

Yes their range for Canadians is atrocious in comparison to other companies. I would pass.

Google vaderdaeth May 8, 2021

Lmao dude except a few unicorns 180k-200k CAD is high pay. It’s not “trash pay”.

Google nn. May 8, 2021

Google L4 and Amazon SDE2 is 220k top of band. 190k for L5 is a slap on the wrist.

Amazon yeahaah May 14, 2021

240k* is top of the band in Amazon (SDE2)

North n00bmaster May 13, 2021

Yup, that’s pretty much what square would offer for L5 position. Pretty cheap offer honestly despite the culture, WLB, etc, seem very positive.